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Posted 2012-11-04 10:41 PM
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Hi -
We're releasing nPOPuk 3.0 this week, and I wonder: does anyone actually still use it actively on Windows CE? Many of my beta testers say they've moved to Android. The reason I'm asking on the HPC Pro forum is that I found my major improvement doesn't compile for WinCE211, because CP_UTF8 is not defined, and the OS apparently does not have the UTF-8 codepage installed.

nPOPuk used to save the messages to disk/flash memory using CP_ACP, the default codepage, and it would make a complete hash of messages in eg Cyrillic. I'm considering writing a UTF-16 to UTF-8 function (or finding one I can use for free), but if no one actually uses nPOPuk on WinCE211 or WinCE3, then I won't bother. I did compile a version for WinCE 5 (and later), which supports UTF-8.
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I certainly use the current version nPOPuk on my HP Jornada 720, and use an earlier MIPS version on a Sharp Mobilon 4100 (CE 2.0). I also nPOPUK on a WinCE 6.0 machine.

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wkt
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I use nPOPuk regularly under WinCE6 and Windows Embedded Compact 7.

Dont know by heart which version I use. But in a random way the program
sometimes doesnt start any more but I get an "initialization error"...
Also my address book sometimes doesnt show up any more. ANNOYING...

Can you give a link where I can download the 3.0 version for WinCE6 and WEC7 ?

Thank you.
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Link in the sites main news.
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wkt - 2012-11-05 10:36 AM

I use nPOPuk regularly under WinCE6 and Windows Embedded Compact 7.

Dont know by heart which version I use. But in a random way the program
sometimes doesnt start any more but I get an "initialization error"...
Also my address book sometimes doesnt show up any more. ANNOYING...



Please let me know which version. Also: are you running from main memory or a flash drive or memory card? I've had some reports of issues with removable media.
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Jake - 2012-11-05 6:21 AM

I certainly use the current version nPOPuk on my HP Jornada 720


I'd be interested to know if 3.0rc1 works on your Jornada. Make a copy of your files in case it doesn't! I don't know if WCE3 has UTF-8 support; if it doesn't, then I think you'll find that the program starts up and asks you to set up a new account (because it fails to read the INI file). I recently deactivated my WinXP machine that has the WCE3 SDK installed on it. I still have the computer, but I was thinking to only compile WCE211 if there was interest in older WCEs, figuring there wasn't much difference between WCE211 and WCE3.
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Windows CE was designed from version 1.0 as a unicode OS and I think UTF-16 from 1.01. Whether the fonts have the necessary support is another matter, but an API in one form or another should be there. Hopefully the Windows CE 2.10 emulator with the H/PC Pro SDK will know the difference too.
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Indeed, the WinCE binaries have always supported Unicode. However, it is UTF-16, and for some reason, the strings always have to be converted to something else when they're saved. (Maybe it's just historical? Or maybe UTF-16 has zero bytes that look like the end of file?) The program had always converted the WideChar (UTF-16) to MultiByte using CP_ACP, which had issues. According to this page:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms961248.aspx
CP_UTF8 is not supported in WinCE3. (The corresponding page for WinCE5, http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms886760.aspx, does show CP_UTF8, and since I don't compile for CE.net, I didn't go look it up.)

I did find some code from Unicode, Inc. that does the conversion; I need to adapt it a little to my situation.
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I downloaded npopuk300ssl for wince 5.0 and I got an invalid CE application in a jornada 720.

Do you have a 3.0 version for wince 3.0 that I can test for you?

Jake
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gjcoram - 2012-11-06 1:27 AM

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wkt - 2012-11-05 10:36 AM

I use nPOPuk regularly under WinCE6 and Windows Embedded Compact 7.

Dont know by heart which version I use. But in a random way the program
sometimes doesnt start any more but I get an "initialization error"...
Also my address book sometimes doesnt show up any more. ANNOYING...



Please let me know which version. Also: are you running from main memory or a flash drive or memory card? I've had some reports of issues with removable media.


I run it from the "\Flash Disk" dir of my device.

How to run from main memory ??? PUZZLED...

I will check the version soon. ADDED : seems to be version nPOPuk 2.13p2 (SSL)

Edited by wkt 2012-11-06 5:01 PM
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Jake - 2012-11-06 11:27 AM

I downloaded npopuk300ssl for wince 5.0 and I got an invalid CE application in a jornada 720.

Do you have a 3.0 version for wince 3.0 that I can test for you?

Jake
Go to the nPOPuk forum, the links are on the forum root.
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wkt - 2012-11-06 11:58 AM

I run it from the "\Flash Disk" dir of my device.

How to run from main memory ??? PUZZLED...


I put it in my "My Documents" folder. You can put the exe (and the data files) anywhere you like; it doesn't need to be installed.

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Thanks, C:Amie. Yes, I can confirm that w/ a Jornada 720, Earthlink POP mail, nPOPuk 3.0rc1 receives and sends.

Many thanks,
Jake
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Thanks for the report, Jake.
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I used now the v3.00 version on my wm8650 netbook under Win CE 6.
After copying nPOPuk.ini and several corresponding *.dat files to the local
dir the program started without problem. WiFi connection worked immediately.

I also have my address book copied in a file Adress.lst
It shows up perfectly.

BUT what happened : for a reason I dont understand and cant
reproduce suddenly the Adress.lst file was DESTROYED to size 0...

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