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Zorro Page Icon Posted 2005-02-03 9:05 AM
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I'm working with an embedded device running Windows CE 4.2 on a X86 platform.
I need acrobat reader; where can I find and download it?
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C:Amie Page Icon Posted 2005-02-03 10:06 AM
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Windows CE 4.2 comes with a PDF reader... What device are you using?

If this is a Platfomr Builder emulation job, just rebuild the image with the reader and send it through the debugger.
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Zorro Page Icon Posted 2005-02-03 10:52 AM
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I'm using an industrial device (VT595CE: www.esahmi.com) and no PDF reader is included in the CE image; may I download and install? This is a X86 platform.
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C:Amie Page Icon Posted 2005-02-03 12:32 PM
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I'm afraid that you cannot.

The way I see it you have two choices.
1. Ask the OEM to issue a new image with the PDF viewer in ROM, or 2. try asking Ansry if they have a x86 build or Primer 3.1 that will run under CE4:
http://www.hpcfactor.com/qlink/?linkID=43

Being an x86 device, the vast majority of commercial Software developers just do not cater for your CPU type. They are very unusual in the retail world - we're all StrongArm / XScale focused.
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Zorro Page Icon Posted 2005-02-04 12:13 PM
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Many thanks for your help. I'll check. Another isuue: I need a printer driver for the same device. Any idea where I can get a sample for testing? My customer needs to be sure it works fine.
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C:Amie Page Icon Posted 2005-02-04 2:24 PM
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If it is a PCL3 printer then it will work. Other wise there has to be a specific driver wirtten for that particular printer.

Otherwise your only hope is asking people such as these:
http://www.fieldsoftware.com/PrintPocketCE_WhatsNew.htm
If they have a CE4 core version.
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TFGBD Page Icon Posted 2005-02-16 1:22 AM
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Hey. Over some time I have compiled a list of the CE software I have come across that has an x86 version available. While there isn't much, there is at least some, and a lot of open source software you find can just be recompiled as well. Even SpreadCE, PocketTV and PocketDOS have native x86 versions available, so all hope is not totally lost. Many .Net Compact Framework programs may also run if you have the .NET Compact Framework in ROM. If you don't, it can be downloaded from Microsoft's site(use google). Visual Basic apps my also be usable if you install the runtimes (There are x86 builds of the VB runtimes included in the sdks for HPC 2000 and Pocket PC 2002). PocketC programs should work as well, as there is an x86 build of the runtime.
Anyway, here is my list:

Primer PDF (by request) http://www.ansyr.com/products/windows/prime21/requirements.asp
Spread CE http://www.byedesign.freeserve.co.uk/
PocketDOS http://www.pocketdos.com/download.htm
Pocket C Runtime http://www.orbworks.com/wince/download/rt/pkpc310.PPC310_x86.CAB
dbView SP http://www.monolithix.org/apps/dbviewsp.zip
SJphone http://www.sjlabs.com/products/sjp-ce.html
PocketTV http://www.mpegtv.com/wince/pockettv/
PocketSpeech http://www.elanspeech.com/products/fp_tempo_pocket.html
Noisette Software http://www.noisette-software.com/products/wince/
AnYong http://www6.plala.or.jp/anyoung/
Southway Corp. http://www.zipworld.com.au/~peterept/
PHM Software http://www.phm.lu/Products/Embedded/
rainer-keuchel SW http://www.rainer-keuchel.de/software.html (also open source)
Jeode Java VM
NSIcom CrEme http://www.nsicom.com
Freefloat FTP Svr http://www.freefloat.com/ftpserver/
Citadel PocketTools http://www.citadeldevelopment.com/products/ptools.aspx
--.Net Compact Framework--
WordNetCE http://www.ebswift.com/PocketPC/WordNet/
CHMReader http://pjtewkesbury.webspace.surefish.co.uk/
Speed Reader Plus http://www.mobiledynamo.com/prod01.htm

--Open Source--
GSPlayer http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA032810/index.htm
GSPlayer MIDI
PocketDivX http://www.projectmayo.com/projects/detail.php?projectId=9
PocketMVP
PocketNester http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=71201
GNUBoyCE http://gnuboyce.berlios.de/
eV HP41 http://www.hp41.org/Emulation.html
Pocket Atari http://pocketatari.retrogames.com/downloads.html
TOMBO Notetaker http://tombo.sourceforge.jp/En/
nPOP CE http://www.nakka.com/soft/npop/index_eng.html http://www.npopsupport.fsworld.co.uk/...
Oohito Software http://www.oohito.com/index_e.htm
KAWARA http://homepage2.nifty.com/thirami/softs/Kawara/indexe.html
CEHttp http://cehttp.ddo.jp/
My IpConfig http://myipconfig.sourceforge.net/
Space Invader http://www.scottlu.com/Content/Invaders.html
PocketUAE http://pocketinsanity.sourceforge.net/index.php
VLC-PocketPC http://sourceforge.net/projects/vlcpocketpc/
--Drivers--
Y-E DATA USB FD http://www.yedata.com/support/external_floppydrives.shtml

I hope this was of some help to you Enjoy



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takwu Page Icon Posted 2005-02-16 4:16 AM
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Impressive...
Perhaps there should be a maintained list. However I'd imagine person to do it must have an x86 CE device to test with.

Curious, which x86 CE device are you using? Does it work with ActiveSync?
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Snappy! Page Icon Posted 2005-02-16 10:31 AM
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takwu - 2005-02-16 2:16 AM

Impressive...
Perhaps there should be a maintained list. However I'd imagine person to do it must have an x86 CE device to test with.

Curious, which x86 CE device are you using? Does it work with ActiveSync?


hmm ... x86 CE device?? interesting
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surrealmonk Page Icon Posted 2005-02-16 5:45 PM
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Yes, very interesting indeed... Unfortunately, I think it would suffer from even less software support than we HPCers already face... Though it would be cool to put CE on some old 386 or 486 machines and see how fast they can get...
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Snappy! Page Icon Posted 2005-02-16 6:34 PM
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surrealmonk - 2005-02-16 3:45 PM

Yes, very interesting indeed... Unfortunately, I think it would suffer from even less software support than we HPCers already face... Though it would be cool to put CE on some old 386 or 486 machines and see how fast they can get...


Yes ... esp to have it do instantON!!! Now that would be cool!

After using my MP790 for a few months, I realised this ... while it is instantON, doing certain things beyong basic PIM is sloooow ... eg browsing the web. Granted the web is constantly evolving, and I am really forcing a device released in 2001 (or '00) to struggle with new content designed in 2005, it is quite slow.

The PC (or notebook) on the other hand, boots slow (depending on configuration), but gets things done FAST! I even enable hibernation for the common PC that I sometimes use. So it boots up in 10sec or 20sec flat.

So if wince can be made to work on x86 machines, then you have instantON + fast reaction!!! hmm ... sounds like PXA chips??
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TFGBD Page Icon Posted 2005-03-09 6:52 PM
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Hey. I'm glad you guys found my list useful. If you are interested, my test device is the X86 CE device emulator that comes with various eVC++ SDKs and Platform Builder. I also occasionally boot the emulator images on my desktop PC natively. In case you didn't know, most of the emulator images included with the various WinCE SDKs not only boot on the Connectix Virtual PC based WinCE device emulator, but also on actual x86 PC hardware! ;P

So, you can in fact run the x86 builds of Pocket PC 2002, SmartPhone 2002, Pocket PC 2003, Smartphone 2003, Pocket PC 2003 SE, and Handheld PC 2000 natively on your desktop or laptop PC.

One of these days I guess I’ll make a website showing how to do this along with my other fun CE experiments...like running HPC apps on Smartphone.

I really do wish more authors supported X86 though. There are at least a few consumer/enterprise CE devices out there that use the x86 processor and most Pocket PC authors that use the emulators should already have a few x86 builds handy anyway... I imagine alot of them will make them available if you just ask, though. Good Luck!
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takwu Page Icon Posted 2005-03-10 8:55 PM
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Booting CE on a laptop would be cool.
Is it free to get these images? And do they include standard apps? Sounds like a fun thing to try, and maybe even practical.

As for HPC apps on Smartphone...

Hey I actually do have a problem with Smartphone, maybe you can help, altho it'd be seriously off-topic
I use Microsoft Works to sync with my HPC. Works installs a small package on it in order to make it sync. It's compatible with CE 2 and up. But they haven't updated it forever, and unsurprisingly the CAB won't install on my Smartphone. I tried MS support for the heck of it, and they said "Smartphone is not a Windows CE device"

So I just wonder, can I use the same dll files from that package, but make a Smartphone installation for it, so Works can sync with the Smartphone?
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Hrm...

Is your Smartphone running Smartphone 2002 (CE 3.0 based) or Smartphone 2003 (CE 4.2 Based)?

In Smartphone 2002, the Smartphone's Wceload.exe cab installer supported classic CE cab installs (CE 2.0+ ) as well as the new Smartphone cab format. However, starting with Smartphone 2003, support for legacy cabs was dropped and the Smartphone cab format seems to have been made mandatory. Many HPC and PPC applications install fine under SP2002 but will always refuse to install on SP2003. This also creates problems for authors that used the classic format for their Smartphone apps because they will refuse to install on SP2003. I imagine MS did it to force developers to use the compressed Smartphone cab format and decrease Over The Air download times.

If you are using Smartphone 2003, the easiest workaround for this limitation is to temporarily replace the Smartphone wceload.exe with a HPC or PPC one.
If you wish, I can upload a CE 4.2 wceload for you to try when I have the chance...

If the device you are using uses Smartphone 2002, it may not install through Activesync, but you should be able to install from a cab file on your device.

You can also edit or make a new cab file to install the files on Smartphone with OCP Software's WinCE Cab Manager utility. This tool will allow you to modify or create almost any type of Windows CE cab file.
Found here: http://www.ocpsoftware.com/download.php?nm=cecabmgr

Though, you should be aware that even if you do get it to install, there is no guarantee it will work with the Smartphone's version of the Pocket Outlook PIMS...
I dunno, so heres hoping!

Hope I was helpful

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cmonex Page Icon Posted 2005-04-22 2:10 PM
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please make this website!!!
or can you write it down here how to boot wince on an x86 pc.
thanks
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