Windows CE Development, Douglas Boling's Books--Any good?
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Posted 2007-03-05 7:04 PM
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Hiya,

I'm interested in programming a couple of Windows CE apps (most likely for Handheld PC Pro 2.11, maybe 2.0...) and have downloaded eMbedded Visual C++ 3.0 and the relevant SDKs.

I know a bit of C++ (I'm a Web Developer by profession so C++ isn't my speciality, if anything I know C and Objective C better) but have never programmed the Win32 of MFC based APIs before, ever!

I notice Douglas Boling's books seem to be well thought of.

I notice his book from Microsoft Press, currently in its third edition with "Windows CE.net Programming", but I can obtain the first or second edition (1998 and 2001) respectively.

Which of these would be best?

If neither, which literature would you recommend in view of the fact my C++ is not that great and I have no prior Windows 32 programming knowledge at all from a C/C++ POV?

Thanks

Vicky
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CE Geek
Posted 2007-03-05 7:17 PM
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I have the one covering H/PC 2000 development, and my initial impression is that it's very thorough. However, given that I'm a total newbie to programming and just starting to learn, I doubt that I can be of much help rendering an opinion beyond that.
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Posted 2007-03-06 6:15 AM
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Vicky,

Chiark swares by (or at) the Boling books, the 1998 one (depending on printing) would cover 1.0, 2.0 and possibly 2.10/2.11 - but may be written for VC6, not eVC. The 2001 version will likely cover everything up until PPC2000/early 2002.
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Posted 2007-03-06 12:12 PM
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Boling is an excellent writer, and the books are very well written. They assume no specific knowledge of Win32 programming, and walk you through from hello world up. Only C is used, not C++, and MFC is resolutely avoided.

Compared to the other books I've tried (Burdick / Gratton&Brain) this is definitely the best for someone in your position.
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lil
Posted 2007-03-06 12:19 PM
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Just C?

In which case we are laughing because I can program C very proficiently. I'll pick up the 2001 edition, that way I will get insight into Handheld PC Professional and 2000 definitely.

Thank you for that clarification

Vicky
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Posted 2007-03-06 2:03 PM
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No worries - you should be able to get it cheap. If you can't, you might as well get the .Net version as being honest there's not much .net in there and handheld pc is still covered.
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lil
Posted 2007-03-06 2:32 PM
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Hiya,

I got the second edition via eBay. £10 shipped so that suits me fine, as on Amazon it's a good deal more.

Are there any starters guides to Win CE programming with Win32 online?

I have come home with high hopes I might be able to follow this:
http://www.winprog.org/tutorial/

However, it seems most of it doesn't apply as even the first Hello World app results in lots of escape characters rather than the message expected.

I guess I am too eager to get started. Problem is I know C but nothing about Win32 conventions!

Vicky
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Posted 2007-03-07 2:25 AM
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I believe ArchiMark has the CE .net version - he's the one I bought the H/PC 2000 one from. (The thread got wiped off hpcBay during the crash.) He was asking a very reasonable price too - $10.

Edited by CE Geek 2007-03-07 2:26 AM
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chiark
Posted 2007-03-07 6:02 AM
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If you're getting garbled messages, that's probably because every string in WinCE needs to be in Unicode rather than ascii - couch the literal text in the macro TEXT("hello world" and it should all work nicely.

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lil
Posted 2007-03-07 7:14 AM
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Oh brilliant

I did suss this out yesterday in the end but had no idea what the Text() construct was for so I stopped because I like to know what everything does when I program.

I'm really looking forward to getting this book! Then I can start on a few little ideas I have, mainly an editor which is a bit more suitable for creating large documents than PocketWord (which I love still), mostly a writer's editor than a letter writer.

Fingers crossed eh!

Vicky

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lil
Posted 2007-03-13 2:31 PM
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Received it today, in good condition

Shame it still had the Clearance: $2.00 sticker on it from its pre-eBay seller... I paid something silly like $15 inc shipping to the UK so I can't moan...

This should be an interesting read

Vicky
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Posted 2007-03-19 6:34 PM
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I'd just like to point out that the author (TheForger) of that #winprog guide there is also the author of Pocket IRC. www.pocketirc.com So of course, he knows CE pretty well. He is of course in the famous #winprog IRC channel on EFnet as they own that site. While you are there, you may also want to visit #hpcdev / #hpcfactor and say hi some of us folks from HPC:factor in real time!
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Posted 2007-03-20 4:46 AM
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Sounds useful - never used IRC, but it might be a very good idea !
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