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The most usable handheld in 2018?
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Posted 2018-12-07 2:49 AM
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The toughest thing about HPC Fan's challenge is the 2005 limit. But if Stingraze can go to 2011 with the Sony Tablet P, then I'd go with the BlackBerry Bold 9900, which is about the finest piece of engineering I've ever had my hands on... I can touch type on it at a rate that's ridiculously fast and of course it's very portable.

Text editing works great.
Emails are not a problem: LogicMail, which works without a BlackBerry plan, is still reasonably serviceable.
Syncing PIM to Outlook still works well over bluetooth or USB.
The big problem with the device is that it's starting to have real issues with security certificates, so WiFi/Browsing are becoming more and more limited.

All things considered, I think it's my favourite handheld device ever.
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stingraze
Posted 2018-12-08 4:41 AM
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I noticed Japanese OS and U.K. Language setting's "heaviness" is lighter on U.K. Ver.

It uses less resource since it doesn't have to predict and change into Katakana / Kanji / Hiragana.
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Rich Hawley
Posted 2018-12-08 3:36 PM
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Hmmm… I guess the correct response cannot be made until you define what you determine a "handheld" is. You mentioned the MP900 series.

If you allow anything that size, then what about the Sony PCG-C1VE. The picturebooks were tiny subnotebooks, and even today they are perfect for doing what you listed. And they came out in the very early 2000s.

I had one for a while and enjoyed it. My Fujitsu P1000 was only a little larger, but had far better battery life and had a touchscreen. Both of these were far smaller than the Jornade 820 or MP 800 series.

To me a handheld should fit in your pocket and hand… easily. In this case my Treo 650 filled the bill nicely, and the SD wifi card handles WPA nicely. Alas, Sprint no longer supports this phone, but did for many years. But then since cellular service is out, then my HX4700 with VGA does it all, modern browser, built in wifi, bluetooth.

Hardware however, is only as good as the software that supports it. Although 5 years after 2005, my original Samsung Galaxy 1 far out performs anything any handheld within your guidelines running a Android 4.4 cuztom rom.
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Posted 2018-12-08 7:50 PM
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Oh, I loved the Sony PCG-C1VE. It's size and the fact it ran Windows XP like a champ was great. I haven't toyed with one in over ten or so years, but I'd like to get another one someday. I'd also like the Fujitsu P1000. Never seen that before now, looks like one of those computers that'd be fun to have.

And yes, I remember I bought an HX4700 from you and was amazed at what it could do.

Let's mix it up a bit.

What's the best handheld for writing?

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Must have usable keyboard, has a screen that's readable and more than just a few lines (no DANA or Alphasmarts!), allows you to write in formats still recognized today for easy transfer, not made after 2001 and runs a mobile OS like WinCE, Garnet OS, EPOC etc., and of course it must be portable.

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Jake
Posted 2018-12-08 10:50 PM
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I still have a PCG-C1VE. I dual boot between Win2K and Puppy Linux 4.3. Yeah, the battery life of the standard battery is brutal, but I use an extended battery, which is pretty good, and I yanked the hard drive for a compact flash card, and that helped battery life, too.

As for writing, prolly the Sharp Mobilon 4100 or (maybe the Casio A-22T) for outside, the J-720 for inside, but that's the super compact approach--I've never used a NEC MobilePro, but I'm almost positive that Rich would vouch for one of their keyboards over anything I've cited.

The EPOC5 word processor is phenomenal, but doc conversion is a drag and file swapping a pain, too (no networking). The Psion 5MX keyboard still a gold standard to many, but best of luck with that screen cable...

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Paianni
Posted 2018-12-09 1:23 AM
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As with all legacy I.T, handhelds would be more usable today if they weren't disadvantaged by bloated software and websites, now perceived to be a prerequisite for modern life. That being said, being stuck on obsolete and unsupported platforms doesn't help.

Edited by Paianni 2018-12-09 1:24 AM
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Jake
Posted 2018-12-09 1:46 PM
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Since the vast majority of my devices are antiquated, the Links2 browser has been their savior. The text browser, coupled with its nifty knack of rendering only key images, even works on Windows and romps on Linux as far back as 8.04.

Too bad Links2 never made it to WinCE or Android, for that matter. I've tried text browsers in Android and they were either ineffectual or abandoned or both.

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Rich Hawley
Posted 2018-12-09 9:44 PM
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I got my Bachelor's degree using a MP780…it was great. And the wifi kiosk at my university allowed me to upload files directly in Pocket Word with automatic conversion to whatever format the professor preferred.

Years later, when I had become an adjunct professor myself, that feature still worked with the Mac laptops the gave us. Seamless file conversion taking place invisibly by the server software.

So, yeah, the larger MP keyboards were superb for text entry.
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