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ArchiMark Page Icon Posted 2020-09-14 4:08 PM
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Any limitations as to what CF cards will work with this linux setup?

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_dev-null Page Icon Posted 2020-09-15 6:27 AM
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Hi Mark!
Here is a list of currently supported CF cards:
PCMCIA_DEVICE_PROD_ID12("IBM", "microdrive", 0xb569a6e5, 0xa6d76178),
PCMCIA_DEVICE_PROD_ID12("IBM", "IBM17JSSFP20", 0xb569a6e5, 0xf2508753),
PCMCIA_DEVICE_PROD_ID12("KINGSTON", "CF CARD 1GB", 0x2e6d1829, 0x55d5bffb),
PCMCIA_DEVICE_PROD_ID12("KINGSTON", "CF CARD 4GB", 0x2e6d1829, 0x531e7d10),
PCMCIA_DEVICE_PROD_ID12("KINGSTON", "CF8GB", 0x2e6d1829, 0xacbe682e),
PCMCIA_DEVICE_PROD_ID12("M-Systems", "CF300", 0x7ed2ad87, 0x7e9e78ee),
PCMCIA_DEVICE_PROD_ID12("M-Systems", "CF500", 0x7ed2ad87, 0x7a13045c),
PCMCIA_DEVICE_PROD_ID1("TRANSCEND 512M ", 0xd0909443),
PCMCIA_DEVICE_PROD_ID12("TRANSCEND", "TS1GCF45", 0x709b1bf1, 0xf68b6f32),
PCMCIA_DEVICE_PROD_ID12("TRANSCEND", "TS1GCF80", 0x709b1bf1, 0x2a54d4b1),
PCMCIA_DEVICE_PROD_ID12("TRANSCEND", "TS2GCF120", 0x709b1bf1, 0x969aa4f2),
PCMCIA_DEVICE_PROD_ID12("TRANSCEND", "TS4GCF120", 0x709b1bf1, 0xf54a91c8),
PCMCIA_DEVICE_PROD_ID12("TRANSCEND", "TS4GCF133", 0x709b1bf1, 0x7558f133),
PCMCIA_DEVICE_PROD_ID12("TRANSCEND", "TS8GCF133", 0x709b1bf1, 0xb2f89b47),
PCMCIA_DEVICE_PROD_ID12("TRANSCEND", "TS32GCF133", 0x709b1bf1, 0x12fd2f49),
PCMCIA_DEVICE_PROD_ID12("TRANSCEND", "TS64GCF800", 0x709b1bf1, 0x84382de1),

I can add cards to the kernel source if you tell me the id your card has. You need to put the card into a working Linux PC with PCMCIA or the Jornada itself booted from a working CF card to Linux. Here is a short description: http://www.sp-net.at/wiki/doku.php?id=jornada_j720_linux_cfdriver

If you have a currently not supported card, i need the output from these two commands:
$ cat /sys/bus/pcmcia/devices/0.0/prod_id1
$ cat /sys/bus/pcmcia/devices/0.0/prod_id2


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ArchiMark Page Icon Posted 2020-09-15 1:22 PM
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Thank you for all the info, Stefan!

Have a SanDisk 64GB card I would like to use if possible.

Will check out the info you request and let you know.

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ArchiMark Page Icon Posted 2020-09-17 5:17 PM
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Hi Stefan,

Don't have computer with a PCMCIA slot anymore.

I do have laptop running Manjaro Linux and USB card reader that accepts CF cards.

Been trying to read card info in terminal, but so far, just get info about the USB card reader.

Any ideas as to what command to use to get to the CF card info?

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kennytaylor661 Page Icon Posted 2020-09-22 4:30 PM
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Hi Stefan,

Great work on the 4.x kernel! I'm running JLime on my 720 and am going to try it this week! I'd also be interested in the 128 mb board.

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_dev-null Page Icon Posted 2020-09-23 7:43 AM
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@Mark, i will try to find a way to get information about the card via a USB - CF card reader!

@Kenny Please do not use the 4.8.7 kernel, since it has a bug that freezes the system when it swaps. Use the 3.16.81 kernel instead! http://www.sp-net.at/nextcloud/s/5qBbkaXaZtiypbP?path=%2Fkernel3.16...

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ntware Page Icon Posted 2020-09-23 2:35 PM
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Stefan, did you manage to make apt work (or any other package manager) on your Debian or Devuan rootfs?
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_dev-null Page Icon Posted 2020-09-23 2:37 PM
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Yes, with the new 3.16.81 kernel the freezes are gone and apt works.

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hpcboy Page Icon Posted 2020-09-23 2:41 PM
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That's exciting news! Many thanks for your effort. It's so rare now to see people caring about these decent old gadgets.
With this working 3.16 kernel, what is the latest debian release that can work with it?

ps I am super latecomer to this hpc world. I am just feeling super happy with my recently acquired Jornada 720 (from a collector friend).

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_dev-null Page Icon Posted 2020-09-23 2:50 PM
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The newest Debian release you can use on the Jornada 7xx is Debian 9. Newer releases dont work, because Debian dropped support for ARMv4t machines.
Anyway, i recommend using Devuan 2 because it uses less system resources!

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_dev-null Page Icon Posted 2020-09-23 2:58 PM
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I finally managed to start working on a manual to get Linux running on the Jornada 7xx.

http://www.sp-net.at/wiki/doku.php?id=jornada_j720_devuanlinux

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hpcboy Page Icon Posted 2020-09-23 2:59 PM
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Debian 9 is good enough to me (almost too good to be true!!). I am a bit familiar with Debian but not Devuan. Is there any installation guide for the Jornada?
Resource-wise, I am thinking of using Windowmaker perhaps as it's both resource and mouse (ie finger/stylus) friendly.

PS. Just saw your guide. Sorry for cross-posting. Great stuff indeed! I will certainly make use of your info and tips. Please keep it up!

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Two posts above I posted the link to my documentation, Devuan is exactly like Debian - except it uses sysvinit as init system ...
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Hi Stefan,

Thanks for your help regarding getting CID info using card reader! Hope that's possible......otherwise, will need to get another CF card.

Thanks for the manual page for getting Linux running on 7xx!

And would be really great if it's possible to get a 128GB board......



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ArchiMark Page Icon Posted 2020-09-24 9:56 PM
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Hi Stefan,

Tried following your instructions on preparing the CF card. Using 64GB Transcend card that's on your list of CF cards in your post above here.

After setting up partitions with cfdisk, I tried formatting the new partitions with the commands shown. However, with each of the 3 partitions, I get an error message as follows:

$ sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1
mkfs.vfat 4.1 (2017-01-24)
mkfs.vfat: /dev/sdb1 contains a mounted filesystem

$ sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb2
mke2fs 1.45.6 (20-Mar-2020)
The file /dev/sdb2 does not exist and no size was specified.

$ sudo mkswap /dev/sdb3
mkswap: cannot open /dev/sdb3: No such file or directory


When I checked CF card with fdisk -l, I get:

Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type

/dev/sdb1 * 2048 43007 40960 20M 4 FAT16 <32M

/dev/sdb2 43008 124648788 124605781 59.4G 83 Linux

/dev/sdb3 124649472 125059071 409600 200M 82 Linux swap / Solaris


Any suggestions???

Thanks!

Mark
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