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Mjolnir Page Icon Posted 2020-05-04 6:56 PM
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The EDUP 5in1 MCR-5A PC Card Adapter worked fine in both my HP 360LX and my Jornada 820. Neither device asked for a driver and both 'saw' and wrote to both a 256MB SanDisk Memory Stick Pro (MagicGate) and a 256MB SanDisk SD card. I made a submission to the HCL. Later I will try it with my Husky FEX21.



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Mjolnir Page Icon Posted 2020-05-10 6:13 PM
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Had some fun this morning converting some pictures and displaying them on my 360LX. I reduced a 870x448 903kb .PNG file I had to 620x319 97kb .jpg and loaded it on my device - worked fairly well.



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Karpour Page Icon Posted 2020-05-10 10:03 PM
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You could try converting them to a 2-bit per pixel gif on the PC too, for better quality dithering!

I tried using Photoshop for dithering, so this may or may not look better on the HPC





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Mjolnir Page Icon Posted 2020-05-12 7:53 PM
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@Karpour Thanks for the response. Your photo displays fairly well on the 360LX. In the end, after several tests, I ended up walking the 'colors' up to the limit (256) and used 320x240 for picture boundaries. As long as the pictures were under 100kb they opened fairly quickly and had a lot of clarity. Different picture for example.

identify Sandy.jpg 
Sandy.jpg JPEG 2592x1936 2592x1936+0+0 8-bit sRGB 1.458MB 0.000u 0:00.009 

convert Sandy.jpg -resize 320x240 -colorspace gray +dither -colors 256 -auto-level Sandy5.gif

identify Sandy5.gif
Sandy5.gif GIF 320x239 320x239+0+0 8-bit sRGB 256c 83.9KB 0.000u 0:00.000


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C:Amie Page Icon Posted 2020-05-13 2:08 PM
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Mjolnir Page Icon Posted 2020-05-13 3:13 PM
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Thanks for the info. I'll have to try that out. While I was playing around yesterday I also used 'convert' in a WSL terminal to take some fairly large .bmps from that never finished family history that I'm sure several of us have tucked somewhere into a hard drive and convert them into small .jpgs and gifs that displayed very well on my 360LX.

identify mom-dad.bmp 
mom-dad.bmp BMP3 2085x1354 2085x1354+0+0 8-bit sRGB 8.471MB 0.030u 0:00.030 

convert mom-dad.bmp -resize 320x240 -colorspace gray +dither -colors 256 -auto-level mom-dad4.gif

identify mom-dad4.gif
mom-dad4.gif GIF 320x208 320x208+0+0 8-bit sRGB 256c 54.9KB 0.000u 0:00.000

identify mom-dad.jpg
mom-dad.jpg JPEG 320x208 320x208+0+0 8-bit sRGB 80.4KB 0.010u 0:00.009






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Mjolnir Page Icon Posted 2020-05-13 5:35 PM
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I installed BMP2BP ENG on my Win ME sych machine and dropped the 8mb .bmp file into the window. I then saved it in 'monochrome' resulting in a 700kb .2bp file. It looked very well on my 360LX but did take a second or two to open up. I was quite surprised that neither Paint or Inkscape (ported) on Widows 10 or ImageMagick in a WSL terminal would 'touch' it when I tried to resize it.
identify mom-dad1.2bp 
identify-im6.q16: unrecognized bits per pixel `mom-dad1.2bp' @ error/bmp.c/ReadBMPImage/842. 

convert MOM-DAD1.2bp -resize 320x240 MOM-DAD2.2bp

convert-im6.q16: unrecognized bits per pixel `MOM-DAD1.2bp' @ error/bmp.c/ReadBMPImage/842.
convert-im6.q16: no images defined `MOM-DAD2.2bp' @ error/convert.c/ConvertImageCommand/3258.




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Karpour Page Icon Posted 2020-05-13 8:23 PM
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It's weird (see other thread). 2BP really just is a BMP with 2 bits per pixel, while 4 bits per pixel and up would be a regular file. So while I guess officially 2bpp isn't a valid bmp, parsing it is so easy that I don't know why imagemagick wouldn't support it. I guess none of the devs really cared for it
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C:Amie Page Icon Posted 2020-05-13 9:09 PM
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So few people ever encountered the format, in practice by the end of 1997 and colour H/PC's, no one needed it. It is super easy to implement though, in terms of read/write logic.
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C:Amie - 2020-05-13 1:09 PM

So few people ever encountered the format, in practice by the end of 1997 and colour H/PC's, no one needed it. It is super easy to implement though, in terms of read/write logic.


Actually, hold your horses on the date!

Had to implement a converter for 2bit bitmaps in 2001 for my employer for the cell phone market. Specifically when this phone appeared: https://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=151
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Mjolnir Page Icon Posted 2020-05-21 11:50 PM
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Well it's been a 50/50 day here in Toyland. I installed Wodeon and Hum on my 360LX. First the good news, Hum played some short mp3s very well, Wodeon choked up but I was kind of expecting such because I haven't had time to try to tailor a video to my device's meager capabilities.
As a lark I tried feeding it a video with these specifications:
ffprobe EASTER.mpg 
 
Input #0, mpeg, from 'EASTER.mpg':
Duration: 00:00:11.03, start: 0.513322, bitrate: 442 kb/s
Stream #0:0[0x1e0]: Video: mpeg1video, yuv420p(tv), 160x112 [SAR 1:1 DAR 10:7], 104857 kb/s, 29.97 fps, 29.97 tbr, 90k tbn, 29.97 tbc
Stream #0:1[0x1c0]: Audio: mp2, 24000 Hz, mono, s16p, 160 kb/s


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CE Geek Page Icon Posted 2020-05-22 12:10 AM
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Have you tried adjusting buffering settings in Wodeon? It's demanding a lot from an ultralow power monochrome display CE 2 device to play MPEG-1 and MP3 files, but letting it buffer a bit more helps in the former case.
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C:Amie Page Icon Posted 2020-05-22 5:46 AM
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PowerDVD/DVD Catalyst used to have a benchmark for this that produced a number that would optimise settings to enable playback on H/PC's. See the screen ratings section
https://www.hpcfactor.com/qlink/?linkID=92

Basically, ensure the resolution is native so it doesn't have to interpolate and pull the frame rate down.
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WallyB110 Page Icon Posted 2021-09-18 7:24 AM
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Nice ! :-)

I just got mine. I gotta get a english rom card for it, but I know windows enough where I can use it. Ill post some pics later. Im waiting for my CF card to come in the mail.

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