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H/PC Philosopher Posts: | 256 |
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| After running DOS programs under PocketDOS for a couple of weeks, I decided to go the full monty by installing the complete MS-DOS 6.22 (plus the supplement disk ) on my Jornada 720.
Here is a quick demonstration of how to get this done.
Part I: Preparation
Ready MS-DOS 6.22 disk images >> Launch PocketDOS >> Create a new harddisk (virtual HDD image ) as C:
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H/PC Philosopher Posts: | 256 |
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| Part II. Installation
Set up A: by supplying the DOS Disk 1 image >> Initiate setup >> Exit setup (press F3 ) >> Run fdisk (and restart PocketDOS ) >> Run format C: /s for the HDD image (and restart PocketDOS ) >> Launch MS-DOS setup again >> Continue the previous setup >> Confirm country, keyboard layout, and installation directory >> Begin the installation procedure >> Supply the next disk image when prompted
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H/PC Philosopher Posts: | 256 |
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| Part III. Finetuning
Restart PocketDOS to boot the newly installed MS-DOS (need to set the boot priority to C: ) >> Load the MS-DOS Supplemental Utilities Disk image >> Run setup >> Select and install the components >> Load PocketDOS Disk Utility image to A: >> Copy A:\DOS\*.* C:\DOS >> Copy A:\config.sys >> Copy A:\autoexec.bat >> Edit autoexec.bat to set the right PATH (A:\DOS becomes C:\DOS )
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H/PC Philosopher Posts: | 256 |
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| Why full installation? It contains a large arsenal of MS-DOS tools and programs (even QBasic and DOS Shell ) that are absent from the vanilla FreeDOS.
Isn't it cool?
Also see how much memory MS-DOS consumes upon booting up:
Despite the quantum increment of computing power and memory space (640KB vs. 640GB ), I simply don't think our productivity has been increased by this many times over these years.
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Moderator H/PC Vanguard Posts: | 2,826 |
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| Well done. And thank you for posting such specific instructions--that will assist other for years to come.
I suppose if you had a HP 200LX, you could run its desktop software (CPACK) on the J, sharing HP's databases, etc.
How does DOShell run? That can be a memory hog, but it was my first GUI adventure.
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| I used to run Arachne on the DOS side of one of my Win 95 machines, a pretty sweet internet suite.
Good work and good write-up, OP. Edited by Mjolnir 2020-11-11 8:06 PM
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H/PC Philosopher Posts: | 256 |
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| Quote Jake - 2020-11-12 2:30 PM
Well done. And thank you for posting such specific instructions--that will assist other for years to come.
I suppose if you had a HP 200LX, you could run its desktop software (CPACK) on the J, sharing HP's databases, etc.
How does DOShell run? That can be a memory hog, but it was my first GUI adventure.
Jake
My demo is actually based on the PocketDOS official tutorial.
I don't have 200LX, but will try to find a copy of CPACK to test it out. Sounds fun.
[EDIT 1: Just searched a bit. CPACK is written for 80286/80386. PocketDOS cannot run CPACK as it emulates only 8086/80186]
DOShell runs fine. Starting up takes about 7 seconds. Once loaded everything works smoothly. I didn't notice obvious lag. In fact DOShell only uses an additional 250KB of memory, which is definitely manageable under PocketDOS.
[EDIT 2: After changing the refresh Timer from 5ms to 1ms, DOSShell launches in just 2 seconds!]
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Moderator H/PC Vanguard Posts: | 2,826 |
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| Re: CPACK--dunno much about DOS flavors, but I run CPACK on Win10 thru DOSBox, so I'm surprised that PocketDOS would have problems. Oh, well.
Glad to see DOSShell up and running. Can a user hide the bottom row of Fn keys in PDOS? Seems a waste of real estate.
Before TextMaker's 2002 birth, I was very much considering PDOS/NewDeal for my word processing on the J-720. I do love me some NewDeal--what a great suite.
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H/PC Elite Posts: | 660 |
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| Quote hpcboy - 2020-11-11 11:10 PM
[EDIT 1: Just searched a bit. CPACK is written for 80286/80386. PocketDOS cannot run CPACK as it emulates only 8086/80186]
If you change the CPU emulation core on PocketDOS you can actually emulate other CPUs. Many moons ago I managed to emulate an 80486 on PocketDOS to run Windows 3.1 in standard mode. You can find the full discussion here: https://www.hpcfactor.com/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=15103
obs: please ignore my English from the post above. At that time, I didn't know how to properly write in English... |
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Subscribers Factorite (Elite) | This is a great tutorial, never really been a DOS user other than disk tools but impressed it'll all run on the J720. Wonder if it could handle win3.1?? |
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H/PC Philosopher Posts: | 256 |
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| Windows 3.1 runs fine under PocketDOS. The only question is you need to find an installer or hdd image yourself.
For the moment I don't feel a strong need to run Win 3.x as I am very happy with the text-based DOS programs. For GUI stuff I simply fall back to CE.
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H/PC Philosopher Posts: | 256 |
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| Quote ntware - 2020-11-14 10:29 AM
Quote hpcboy - 2020-11-11 11:10 PM
[EDIT 1: Just searched a bit. CPACK is written for 80286/80386. PocketDOS cannot run CPACK as it emulates only 8086/80186]
If you change the CPU emulation core on PocketDOS you can actually emulate other CPUs. Many moons ago I managed to emulate an 80486 on PocketDOS to run Windows 3.1 in standard mode. You can find the full discussion here: https://www.hpcfactor.com/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=15103
obs: please ignore my English from the post above. At that time, I didn't know how to properly write in English...
That's wonderful "news" to me. Will give it a try soon.
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H/PC Elite Posts: | 660 |
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| If you’re looking for a GUI experience on PocketDOS, Windows 3.0 in real mode runs a lot smoother than Windows 3.1 in standard mode with a 80486 plugin |
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Moderator H/PC Vanguard Posts: | 2,826 |
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| For some reason, I've always wanted to run 3.1 on the J-720, if only to use 16-bit Word 6.0, a wonderful word processor. On the other hand, TextMaker2002 is even better, so I can't account for my fascination. [I think Word 2.0, another good wp, will run on Win3.0]
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| If I remember correctly, Win 3.1 on PocketDOS is only worth as a science project because it is too slow to be usable. Win 3.0 in real mode on the other hand is quite snappy. |
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