Should I give the jornada a 2nd chance?

Hey y’all so anyways, I was thinking of buying a hp jornada. I don’t care which number of model it is but then I didn’t like the jornada at first because of the sync issues I had with windows 98 se so anyways should I give a 2nd chance with the jornada?

Maybe.
Honestly, my J680 doesn't have the sync cable at all, files go on/off entirely via external storage, and the 680 has a built-in backup utility to restore the stuff on the RAM disk from a file for if you lose all power to the device, so it hasn't quite felt essential. However, there are still a few programs where the installer has to run on a computer and be synced over (PocketDOS kind of has this issue, although you can extract the files from the installer with 7-Zip).
Still, I also have the advantage of having an SD card reader in the PC-Card slot -- the 680 has a built in spot for CF cards immediately under the PC-Card slot, but it's also super, super flimsy and awkward, you're expected to just leave the card in there instead of swapping it out.

You'll also probably want an ARM-based device like the Jornada 720, since it can run more software and they're faster.
From a development point of view, the tooling is also way better (there is GCC support for ARM-based CE devices).

Thanks, but I’m kinda cool with the hitachi sh3 procceser and I would buy a 680 myself.

Unless your needs are very limited, and/or the time you want to invest, I would get a 720 or 728. For one thing, the 64mb module of the 728 will fit the 720, so you have future expansion. More available software, I think, for ARM, and if you takes a glance at the threads here, there is a lot of Linux, etc development for the 720, and not as much for others.

re: your syncing issues--with a 720 and 64-bit Win10, you will be able to sync with WMDC/patches and a 32-bit Outlook (2010 and below, I believe).

Jake

If you want to stick with SH3, though, you still might consider getting a 690, which comes stock with more RAM (32 MB versus 16 MB in the 680).

Oh, and one thing I ended up doing for sync (with my LG Phenom at least) was just using a Windows 2000 VM in VirtualBox and attaching my serial port to it, which also solves the issue of running installers that have 16-bit portions and don't just give you some .CAB files to copy to the device manually.

Thanks, but i have to wait on that for now. Also, for the development side of things of all thing's windows ce i have embedded visual c++ 4.0 for my programing, but idk what sdk to install for the jornada, so can you link me to that please?

You need eVT 3 for targeting H/PC Pro and HPC2000, not eVC 4.
https://www.hpcfactor.com/developer

Or VS6
https://www.hpcfactor.com/support/cesd/200225/how_to_setup_a_windows...

Maybe I should choose a different type of handheld pc that runs windows ce, can you give me a recommendation?

It's more about what you want to do with, surely, than just us throwing model numbers at you?

What are your expectations / needs?

my needs are for programming, playing games, listening to mp3 files, watching video files, and doing my work on it.

The MP900/900C, while a bit bigger has the stronger keyboard, is faster and can offer you more in that regard. Especially for video. Otherwise, you are better off with a 728 than any SH3 device as they really won't cope with video.

maybe i should get the hp 660lx because it costs $99 plus free shipping on ebay.

Unless that includes the upgrade to 2.11, and even so, I imagine you'll miss the opportunities of HPC2000, nor will you be able to sync w/ Win10/WMDC. Do you have a 32-bit Outlook installed on the desktop?

Jake

Update: maybe i should get the nec mobilepro 790 because I really like the design and it has handheld pc 2000!