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| Quote C:Amie - 2022-05-25 6:10 PM
A 100MHz? :S
That doesn't correlate with the 5/2/6 sspec :S
If it's a 100 then it is a P54C in a Socket 7 package. :S
According to page 57 of the manual PDF I posted on Page 1 of this thread, it'll take 75, 90, 100, 120, 133, 150, 166 and 200MHz.
So the answer is no, the current CPU will not take the 512KB L2 cache chip. you will have to swap the CPU out for one of the below for that.
200MHz
166MHz
Very strange, my IBM label says 59T
I also took the booklet and read:
Cache L2 Upgrade up to 512kb
Also I read about Microprocessor:
Intel Pentium processor
The system board is designed to support microprocessor speeds between 75 MHz and 166 MHz (50, 60 or 66 MHz externally )
This is the libretto, but it is in Italian.
https://ibb.co/r7gy3rM
https://ibb.co/yVK2q6j
Edited by NarakuITA 2022-05-25 6:53 PM
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| Compare the dip switches on Page 57 to your motherboard. If your motherboard is socket 7 and has dip switches have the 200MHz setting, then I imagine it'll take the 200MHz.
Either way, you cannot pair a 100MHz with a 512KB cache.
As for the manual, it could be that the machine was released before the 200MHz chip was and support was added in the BIOS update. From the changes.new text file that I twisted you arm for:
Flash Changes
PC 300 PCI (65X7)
LVJTxxA is the flash diskette level.
LVKTxxA is the flash image level. (BIOS)
NOTE: All changes carry forward. That is, if a change is added in 18A, it
also in 19A, 20A etc.
First release LVKT/LVJT17A
Changes for LVKT/LVJT18A
200MHz setup screen shows processor speed of 198MHz.
If in doubt, get the 166MHz |
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| All clear. Let's say for now, better leave the cache alone. We will see in the future. For now I have ordered the RAM and then I will order the flash memory.
Question: Once the PC is updated, what do you think if I install Windows Millennium Edition on it? |
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| Millennium's minimum CPU clock speed was 150MHz. For me personally, I'd use NT 4.0 - which will run on a 486 DX2, but if you need DOS or USB then that won't work for you. Windows 2000 is almost an option too, but it requires a 133MHz minimum clock speed though. There is no DOS support under Windows 2000 either, but it does support USB.
You would have to sort the CPU though, but at least with a 166 or 200MHz you get MMX extensions and can have the cache. If you don't, then I'd stick with 98 or NT 4.0. |
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| OK, thanks a lot! I will keep you updated for future developments! |
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| I found this very old site, (Italian ) which shows how Windows ME runs well on a 100 MHz Pentium.
SITE WIN ME FOR P. 100MHz
I think if I change it to 98lite, Windows will be super light and it will be perfectly fine!
WIN ME - 98Lite
Another thing:
Excuse my ignorance, I have a doubt. But maybe it's unfounded.
This adapter, which I told you, has this type of socket for the current:
I have these cables, with this typical connection. Are compatible?
I ask you this question, because by chance I happened to see this other adapter, and as you can see the sockets are different !!
Edited by NarakuITA 2022-05-25 10:50 PM
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| They're electrically compatible, you just need to passively adapt it from the HDD to the floppy drive connector.
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| If I'm not mistaken, this?
As for Windows ME, installed that way, what do you think? an attempt can be made. |
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| That'll do it, provided you have a free molex. If you don't, then you need a splitter with a passthrough:
e.g. specifically
You can attempt it, technically it'll run on a 486. It's just not meant for it. It's also horribly unstable and has a crippled DOS experience. If you need DOS, stick with 98, if you do not, then NT 4.0 or 2000 are far better. |
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| Perfect. I'll see if at the computer store I go to, they sell this cable.
The memory has been sent. hopefully in a week it will arrive!
As for the operating system, with DOS I do very little, however I thought that Win ME was much more stable, as the reviews describe it. I don't think Win 2000 can run, too heavy in my opinion. I should upgrade the CPU, as you suggested I do. But that's not my intention for now. |
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| Millennium was notoriously unstable, particularly as you updated it and over time. 2000 would be fine, provided it has the RAM. You really want the 196MB or higher for 2000 Pro. |
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| 192 MB memory already bought all including shipping and warranty, from America 174.80 Dollars.
You won't believe it, but I found a matrox G45 mdha 16D video card stored in a box!
Can I upgrade my video card to a more powerful one! Hoping it still works.
Too bad, I can't find the drivers ...
Edited by NarakuITA 2022-05-26 5:09 PM
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| CPC-Z Detects a Matrox MGA 1064SG PCI card. So I would say yes, much older!
In device manager it is detected as Matrox Mystique PCI.
the G450 Video Card, which one? Would that be referred to as Matrox Marvel G450 eTV?
If I go to: Drivers for older operating systems I find a Millennium G450 with Widnows 95 drivers.
But for the Marvel G450 eTV there are none. I wanted to try it now Edited by NarakuITA 2022-05-26 6:57 PM
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| I'm just going by that first link. As a Year 2000 GPU, it likely never received Windows 95 drivers. |
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