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C:Amie Page Icon Posted 2022-09-28 6:30 PM
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If you can borrow any other, newer drive, try putting that in. It is either the drive or the BIOS at fault. Assuming that the CD's and the burn are kosher, my money would be on the drive not supporting the disc / disc format.
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NarakuITA Page Icon Posted 2022-09-28 7:13 PM
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I believe it is the bios.
I have followed this guide in detail. The CD does not start.
I think only DOS based systems can boot.
https://www.tacktech.com/display.cfm?ttid=346
I am looking on the net how to create boot floppies for XP. There are many guides and they are not well explained.
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C:Amie Page Icon Posted 2022-09-29 9:39 AM
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If you are installing XP Pro SP2 you need WindowsXP-KB310994-SP2-Pro-BootDisk-ENU.exe
If XP Home SP2 you need WindowsXP-KB310994-SP2-Home-BootDisk-ENU.exe
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NarakuITA Page Icon Posted 2022-09-30 10:56 AM
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C:Amie - 2022-09-29 9:39 AM

If you are installing XP Pro SP2 you need WindowsXP-KB310994-SP2-Pro-BootDisk-ENU.exe
If XP Home SP2 you need WindowsXP-KB310994-SP2-Home-BootDisk-ENU.exe


The Lite PRO version has the SP3.
However in the end, it doesn't matter. I will install windows 2000 so I have no problems.

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C:Amie Page Icon Posted 2022-09-30 11:06 AM
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As far as I am aware there was no SP3 re-issue and would need to use the SP2 set.
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NarakuITA Page Icon Posted 2022-09-30 2:06 PM
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Today the 16GB Transcend Industrial has arrived.
But there is a problem the installation of WIN2000 crashes. So I tried to install WIN95 but before the installation starts, the scandisk tells me that it is impossible to read from the last Cluster on drive C. The cluster may be damaged or the system may be configured incorrectly. Drive C needs logical LBA block addressing in order to function properly or the disk partition may be incorrectly marked as a non-LBA partition
Now on Windows 10 there are no problems. I deleted the partition and formatted to FAT32 but the problem remains.
If I do this from DOS from the windows 95 boot disk, he only sees 7GB.
In fact, from the BIOS it sees exactly 7927MB
In windows 10 he sees them all 16. I don't understand ..... What do I do?
Same problem with installing WIndows 98SE and Windows ME.

From the bios I have set High performance IDE operation in compatible and IDE Data preloading in reading from Disabled to Enabled. It did not work.
The interesting thing is that DOS sees all 16GB.

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stingraze Page Icon Posted 2022-09-30 3:04 PM
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The CHS addressing space used in Windows 95 has an upper limit of 8GB because it uses 24bit addressing space.

Some more info here:
http://www.hpcc.ecs.soton.ac.uk/dan/filesystems/partition.html
http://nobusan.jp/computer/hdd/8gb_limit.html (Japanese Page)

Windows 95 OSR2 supports FAT32. OSR2 is OEM SERVICE RELEASE 2.
https://jeffpar.github.io/kbarchive/kb/169/Q169625/

Some more interesting stuff about it here:
https://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/article/970305/akiba2.htm (Japanese Page)
https://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/article/971021/akiba9.htm (Japanese Page)

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NarakuITA Page Icon Posted 2022-09-30 3:45 PM
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stingraze - 2022-09-30 3:04 PM

The CHS addressing space used in Windows 95 has an upper limit of 8GB because it uses 24bit addressing space.

Some more info here:
http://www.hpcc.ecs.soton.ac.uk/dan/filesystems/partition.html
http://nobusan.jp/computer/hdd/8gb_limit.html (Japanese Page)

Windows 95 OSR2 supports FAT32. OSR2 is OEM SERVICE RELEASE 2.
https://jeffpar.github.io/kbarchive/kb/169/Q169625/

Some more interesting stuff about it here:
https://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/article/970305/akiba2.htm (Japanese Page)
https://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/article/971021/akiba9.htm (Japanese Page)


Sorry, so why the other CF was 32GB and could see it quietly?
Then, as just mentioned, the problem occurs both on Windows 98SE and on Windows ME.

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stingraze Page Icon Posted 2022-09-30 3:48 PM
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Is the Windows 95 same version you used for 16GB and 32GB?
It seems that the industrial version of the Transcend 16GB makes it that it shows to the computer as a hard drive. That might be the reason, hence my explanation stands correct. Maybe you can try 2 partition, 8GB + 8GB?

The review describing about the CF card showing as a hard drive is here in amazon.co.jp (English review in the middle of the page)
https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product-reviews/B00APVL9GS

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NarakuITA Page Icon Posted 2022-09-30 3:54 PM
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Is the Windows 95 same version you used for 16GB and 32GB?
It seems that the industrial version of the Transcend 16GB makes it that it shows to the computer as a hard drive. That might be the reason, hence my explanation stands correct. Maybe you can try 2 partition, 8GB + 8GB?


Yes, giving two partitions no problem. But it bothers me ....
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stingraze Page Icon Posted 2022-09-30 3:55 PM
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haha good luck.
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P.S.
This URL may be of use to some users looking to use Compact Flash for retro devices.
https://ilovepa.ws/compact-flash-and-retro-pcs/

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NarakuITA Page Icon Posted 2022-09-30 4:14 PM
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However for no reason now Windows 2000 does not start, it crashes. Either from clean installation, it crashes before installing the operating system, or when installing as an upgrade from Windows 95 to Windows 2000. It installs all the files, then on reboot, when Win2000 loads it crashes with a blue screen.
I don't understand the way. This CF was for him so that he could see the hard drive and not removable.
Money down the drain. I don't understand why it sometimes starts up and sometimes crashes with blue screen.
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stingraze Page Icon Posted 2022-09-30 4:36 PM
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I guess the best approach is to just use a regular HDD to make sure everything works if it's to get everything working...
That's the scary part of (retro) PC assembling / modding, it can lead you into quite a bit of a rabbit hole.
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try the other cf to ide adapter?
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NarakuITA Page Icon Posted 2022-10-01 1:01 AM
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I don't even know how convenient it is to try. I am noticing that in DMA mode it gives a lot of problems. It also does not exceed 10MB / s, compared to the other non-branded CF which supports DMA very well and reaches 14MB / s.
I guess I'll have to buy that.
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