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thenzero Page Icon Posted 2022-12-09 5:33 PM
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Anybody tried connecting from a HPC to Windows 10/11 using RDP? I don't have the pro version but I was thinking of upgrading if anyone can confirm that it works...

Also looking into putting xrdp on my Linux box...anybody have any experience to share on going that route?

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torch Page Icon Posted 2022-12-09 5:38 PM
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I've never messed with it, but have you considered going the VNC route? I think C:Amie had some guides up - I don't know how secure that is though..
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C:Amie Page Icon Posted 2022-12-09 5:52 PM
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You'll have to disable NLA and a few security settings to allow the old RDP protocol to connect.
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thenzero Page Icon Posted 2022-12-09 6:20 PM
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Hey torch,

I did look at that, but I didn't get a vnc viewer working successfully. I'll take another look at it!
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thenzero Page Icon Posted 2022-12-09 6:23 PM
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C:Amie - 2022-12-09 5:52 PM

You'll have to disable NLA and a few security settings to allow the old RDP protocol to connect.


Cool, thanks for the tip! Would it be safe to say that it would be pretty insecure then?
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torch Page Icon Posted 2022-12-09 6:24 PM
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I'm not trying to steal C:Amie's thunder- he has firsthand knowledge of this stuff, but I found these pages
https://www.hpcfactor.com/support/cesd/200046/how_to_install_a_vnc_s...
https://www.hpcfactor.com/support/cesd/200087/windows_ce_vnc_332_cli...
https://www.hpcfactor.com/support/cesd/200047/using_the_vnc_client_f...

and again Idk how secure this is, or if you should try in VM first

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thenzero Page Icon Posted 2022-12-09 7:01 PM
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I got VNCView working so I'll give VNC a shot...thank you
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C:Amie Page Icon Posted 2022-12-09 7:13 PM
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As C:Amie wrote all of those articles, it's hardly stealing my thunder...

RDP is far superior to VNC, and faster. Even modern VNC is clunky and slow. It's barely changed after all these years.

VNC is way less secure than even old RDP. As long as you're doing it on your internal LAN and not port forwarding out to the Internet, it's all pretty harmless though.
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I dunk for bananas Page Icon Posted 2022-12-09 7:41 PM
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Would it be possible to use a CE device as an RDP server?
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C:Amie Page Icon Posted 2022-12-09 8:05 PM
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Not without porting xRDP to Windows CE first, no. MS never coded the service.
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thenzero Page Icon Posted 2022-12-09 11:55 PM
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Well...connecting to XRDP I keep getting an error on "TS_EXTENDED_INFO_PACKET" being 4 bytes too short which I'm guessing is some later addition to the standard.

Looking around I'm guessing the one in the SCL is maybe version 5 whereas XRDP implements version 7.1. Fun times.

Edit: Actually I think the HPC one might be version 4

Edit edit: Just noticed that it says version 4 right there in the title. Haha.

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C:Amie Page Icon Posted 2022-12-10 1:10 PM
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Connecting to xRDP, you still have to reduce the security settings. It isn't magic
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thenzero Page Icon Posted 2022-12-10 2:44 PM
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I set the encryption level to none and the security layer to rdp. I didn't see any other applicable security settings, but it was the first time I'd read the man page for xrdp so I could have missed one. Is there another security setting I missed?
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thenzero Page Icon Posted 2022-12-10 8:10 PM
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OK I went back and took another look after your comment. I tried bumping crypt_level up to "low" from "none", since I read that "low" actually means "defer to the client", and that got me one step farther. Now I'm getting an error on the HPC side that says version mismatch. There are some new errors showing in the xrdp log so I'm going to chase those next.
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thenzero Page Icon Posted 2022-12-10 8:51 PM
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C:Amie - 2022-12-09 5:52 PM

You'll have to disable NLA and a few security settings to allow the old RDP protocol to connect.


Would you mind expanding on which security settings? I'm also trying to connect to Win10 as a test while I try to get xrdp working. I've got NLA disabled.
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