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We need to deliver:
MIPS HPC2000 .VB CAB (this will give us a pattern for a working CE3 x86/SH4/SH4/ARM/ARM720 CAB )
MIPS H/PC Pro .VB CAB (this will give us a pattern for a working CE2.11 SH3, SH4 and ARM CAB )
MIPS 2.0/2.11/HPC2000 .PVB CAB (this will give us a template for working 2.0 CAB and possibly a route to a working 2.11/3.0 CAB )
PocketC can be a different headache, but it needs working single runtime installers for all platforms and the responsibility for runtime to be removed from app installations
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| Quote C:Amie - 2023-01-23 5:13 AM
Quote torch - 2023-01-23 3:58 AM
Quote C:Amie - 2022-11-08 7:07 AM
Quote torch - 2022-10-12 5:11 PM
I tried installing the CE2.0 on my MobilePro 790 (without replacing the .dll files) but it hung at the "Creating Registry" part so I soft reset it. tried going into \Windows and trying the pvbload prog but it just hangs.
Coming back to this as I am conscious that we need to work out which dll registration is hanging as all of those cab's will be doing it.
Attached are the HPC2000 MIPS dll's in individual cab's. Could you please let me know which cause the problem in creating registry and which do not. Thanks
All of these work successfully on MobilePro 790 (clean install ). No registry hanging
I also figured out that Citgo's programs, if I overwrite the dlls, it tries to install the CE2.11 versions-thus that's why I have issues on CE 3.0. But if I just install the program skipping dll overwrite, the programs of course work.
But, I'm confused, C:Amie/CE Geek.
What do I exactly need to do to test with the individual cabs? I'm confused what is wanted for me to do with the registry too...
I was having issues installing the CE2.0 VB runtime (maybe I didn't make this clear before ) on the 790 (that's what was hanging the registry if I recall correctly ), because I thought we were testing getting VB1.0 on HPC2000.
Then you made those indiv. cabs so we could isolate the problem (because I thought you somehow made a souped-up mega runtime combo for VB1.0/VB2.0 for HPC2000 mips )
I mean, I'm happy to test whatever you both want me to test. I was just confused on what I was testing. So I'll need a little more direction on that..
Okay, so the regsrv issue isn't with the CE 3 dll's it's coming from trying to overwrite the 3.00 ones with 2.00 or 2.11 ones. We're definitely going to have to re-write installers to solve this one 
The individual CAB's were to test if it was a specific one of the DLL's causing the regsrv error and messing up the installation. Based on your initial comments on my combined test CAB not working due to the installer refusing to allow you to progress the install after registration failed. We need to work out clearly what the dependency chain is and exactly what is causing the problem. We've eliminated the 3.00 DLL's.
There isn't a misunderstanding. I am trying to solve the mess of ALL VB runtime problems and end-user confusion. Not just PVB.
I think that this will represent a full fix for .VB (eVB 3.0 CEVB 2.0) files on CE 2.11 and 3.0, including x86 on CE 4/5/6:
Full Runtime: https://www.hpcfactor.com/scl/1982/Microsoft_Corporation/Visual_Basi...
Core Runtime: https://www.hpcfactor.com/scl/1983/Microsoft_Corporation/Visual_Basi...
I discovered in looking at the PE headers that the arm720 versions of the DLL's are actually Thumb, so I have changed that (naughty Microsoft ) 
If someone with 2.11/3/4/5/6 devices can confirm that they install and allow .VB's to work. Please let me know.
This is for .PVB files ONLY. Having had a look at the DLL file set and the way it is wired. I think we've got a few different issues
1. I don't have any x86 file set for this. Are you saying that you do, or are your requests to get x86 working just for CEVB 2.0?
2. We need to register .PVB without upsetting .VB
3. Microsoft in their infinite wisdom used the same registration server ID's for CEVB 20 as they did for CEVB 1.0. This means that regsrv for both sets of DLL's are trying to write the exact same data to the exact same place in the registry. This is why everyone's devices are corrupting when they encounter .PVB or install .VB after they install .PVB on a non-runtimed device. so the question is: is the CEVB 2.0 control backwards compatible or are they incompatible and thus Microsoft's laziness has damned this exercise to be either one or the other and not both.
I know we're doing one issue at a time, I just wanted to test/follow-up with you.
I tried the full runtime to no avail, same issue as before with no prog being associated.
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So my weird cocktail, here's the inf file from PoQuickMoney
Genéralities
Selected Filename C:\Users\Joe Berte\Downloads\PoQuickPro.I486 (4K) v3.00(2).CAB
Installation filename (.000) POQUIC~1.000
File size (.000) 1920 bytes
Processor 486 (Intel 486)
File Signature MSCE
Minimal WinCE 0.0
Maximal WinCE 0.0
Minimal WinCE Build 0
Maximal WinCE Build 0
Strings 4
Directories 3
Files 74
Hives 0
Registry Keys 0
Shortcuts 1
Application Name PoQuickPro
Provider Mastersoft
*****************************************************************************************************************************************************************
Strings Value Equivalent
001 %CE1%\PoQuickPro \Program Files\PoQuickPro
002 %CE11% \Windows\Start Menu\Programs
003 %CE2% \Windows
004 PoQuickPro.lnk PoQuickPro.lnk
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Directories String ID Value
002 2 \Windows\Start Menu\Programs
003 1 \Program Files\PoQuickPro
004 3 \Windows
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Files Order Number Flags ID Dir FileName in CAB FileName
001 001 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 0TranBot.001 TranBot.bmp
002 002 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro REPORT~1.002 "ReportBack.bmp"
003 003 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 000000R2.003 R2.bmp
004 004 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro STATEM~1.004 "Statement.bmp"
005 005 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 0rOPT_BS.005 rOPT_BS.bmp
006 006 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 0gOPT_SI.006 gOPT_SI.bmp
007 007 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro PLAINT~1.007 "PlainTitle.bmp"
008 008 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 00FromTo.008 FromTo.bmp
009 009 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 000Calc2.009 Calc2.bmp
010 010 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 0gOPT_NW.010 gOPT_NW.bmp
011 011 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 0000pb20.011 pb20.bmp
012 012 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro FUNCTI~1.012 "FunctionTitle.bmp"
013 013 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro TRANSA~1.013 "Transaction.wav"
014 014 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 0000pb21.014 pb21.bmp
015 015 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 0000pb10.015 pb10.bmp
016 016 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 00PageUp.016 PageUp.bmp
017 017 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro Overview.017 Overview.bmp
018 018 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 0000pb11.018 pb11.bmp
019 019 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 0000pb12.019 pb12.bmp
020 020 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 00000pb0.020 pb0.bmp
021 021 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro PageDown.021 PageDown.bmp
022 022 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro POQUIC~1.022 "PoQuickPro.vb"
023 023 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro Toolbarp.023 Toolbarp.bmp
024 024 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 000tabsp.024 tabsp.bmp
025 025 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 0000pb13.025 pb13.bmp
026 026 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 00000pb1.026 pb1.bmp
027 027 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 000mainp.027 mainp.bmp
028 028 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 0000tick.028 tick.bmp
029 029 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 00000pb2.029 pb2.bmp
030 030 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 0000pb14.030 pb14.bmp
031 031 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 0000CInc.031 CInc.bmp
032 032 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 0000CExp.032 CExp.bmp
033 033 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 00000pb3.033 pb3.bmp
034 034 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 0000pb15.034 pb15.bmp
035 035 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 0splashp.035 splashp.bmp
036 036 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 00000pb4.036 pb4.bmp
037 037 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 0000pb16.037 pb16.bmp
038 038 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 00gOPT_E.038 gOPT_E.bmp
039 039 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 000gBack.039 gBack.bmp
040 040 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 0000Calc.040 Calc.bmp
041 041 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 00000pb5.041 pb5.bmp
042 042 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 0000pb17.042 pb17.bmp
043 043 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 0gOPT_AB.043 gOPT_AB.bmp
044 044 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 00000pb6.044 pb6.bmp
045 045 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 0000pb18.045 pb18.bmp
046 046 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 0mscroll.046 mscroll.bmp
047 047 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 0rOPT_PL.047 rOPT_PL.bmp
048 048 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 00000pb7.048 pb7.bmp
049 049 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 0000pb19.049 pb19.bmp
050 050 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 0gOPT_SE.050 gOPT_SE.bmp
051 051 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 000000R0.051 R0.bmp
052 052 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 00000pb8.052 pb8.bmp
053 053 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 00gOPT_I.053 gOPT_I.bmp
054 054 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 000tickr.054 tickr.bmp
055 055 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 0000selQ.055 selQ.bmp
056 056 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 000000R1.056 R1.bmp
057 057 0x00000000 \Program Files\PoQuickPro 00000pb9.057 pb9.bmp
058 058 0x00000000 \Windows 0pvbload.058 pvbload.exe
059 059 0x10000000 \Windows 0adoce31.059 adoce31.dll
060 060 0x10000000 \Windows 0pvbdecl.060 pvbdecl.dll
061 061 0x10000000 \Windows 00msdaer.061 msdaer.dll
062 062 0x10000000 \Windows pvbform2.062 pvbform2.dll
063 063 0x10000000 \Windows 00msdadc.063 msdadc.dll
064 064 0x10000000 \Windows MSCEFile.064 MSCEFile.dll
065 065 0x10000000 \Windows 0msdaosp.065 msdaosp.dll
066 066 0x10000000 \Windows vbscript.066 vbscript.dll
067 067 0x10000000 \Windows msdaeren.067 msdaeren.dll
068 068 0x10000000 \Windows pvbhost2.068 pvbhost2.dll
069 069 0x10000000 \Windows MSCECO~1.069 "MSCEComDlg.dll"
070 070 0x10000000 \Windows ADOCEO~1.070 "adoceoledb31.dll"
071 071 0x10000000 \Windows adoxce31.071 adoxce31.dll
072 072 0x10000000 \Windows ADOCED~1.072 "adocedb30.dll"
073 073 0x10000000 \Windows MSCEPI~1.073 "MSCEPicture.dll"
074 074 0x10000000 \Windows ADOCED~2.074 "adocedb31.dll"
*****************************************************************************************************************************************************************
ID S. Shortcut Name Installed at Points to
001 PoQuickPro.lnk \Windows\Start Menu\Programs "PoQuickPro.vb"
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Self Register DLL
adoce31.dll
pvbdecl.dll
msdaer.dll
pvbform2.dll
msdadc.dll
MSCEFile.dll
msdaosp.dll
vbscript.dll
msdaeren.dll
pvbhost2.dll
"MSCEComDlg.dll"
"adoceoledb31.dll"
adoxce31.dll
"adocedb30.dll"
"MSCEPicture.dll"
"adocedb31.dll"
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INF file rebuilt : "PoQuickPro.INF"
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[Version]
Signature = "$Chicago$"
CESignature = "$Windows CE$"
Provider = "Mastersoft"
[CEStrings]
Appname = "PoQuickPro"
InstallDir = "%CE1%\%AppName%" ; (%CE1%\PoQuickPro)
[CEDevice]
ProcessorType = 486
[SourceDisksNames]
3 = ,"Dir3",,.\Program Files\PoQuickPro
4 = ,"Dir4",,.\Windows
[SourceDisksFiles]
TranBot.bmp = 3 ; 001
"ReportBack.bmp" = 3 ; 002
R2.bmp = 3 ; 003
"Statement.bmp" = 3 ; 004
rOPT_BS.bmp = 3 ; 005
gOPT_SI.bmp = 3 ; 006
"PlainTitle.bmp" = 3 ; 007
FromTo.bmp = 3 ; 008
Calc2.bmp = 3 ; 009
gOPT_NW.bmp = 3 ; 010
pb20.bmp = 3 ; 011
"FunctionTitle.bmp" = 3 ; 012
"Transaction.wav" = 3 ; 013
pb21.bmp = 3 ; 014
pb10.bmp = 3 ; 015
PageUp.bmp = 3 ; 016
Overview.bmp = 3 ; 017
pb11.bmp = 3 ; 018
pb12.bmp = 3 ; 019
pb0.bmp = 3 ; 020
PageDown.bmp = 3 ; 021
"PoQuickPro.vb" = 3 ; 022
Toolbarp.bmp = 3 ; 023
tabsp.bmp = 3 ; 024
pb13.bmp = 3 ; 025
pb1.bmp = 3 ; 026
mainp.bmp = 3 ; 027
tick.bmp = 3 ; 028
pb2.bmp = 3 ; 029
pb14.bmp = 3 ; 030
CInc.bmp = 3 ; 031
CExp.bmp = 3 ; 032
pb3.bmp = 3 ; 033
pb15.bmp = 3 ; 034
splashp.bmp = 3 ; 035
pb4.bmp = 3 ; 036
pb16.bmp = 3 ; 037
gOPT_E.bmp = 3 ; 038
gBack.bmp = 3 ; 039
Calc.bmp = 3 ; 040
pb5.bmp = 3 ; 041
pb17.bmp = 3 ; 042
gOPT_AB.bmp = 3 ; 043
pb6.bmp = 3 ; 044
pb18.bmp = 3 ; 045
mscroll.bmp = 3 ; 046
rOPT_PL.bmp = 3 ; 047
pb7.bmp = 3 ; 048
pb19.bmp = 3 ; 049
gOPT_SE.bmp = 3 ; 050
R0.bmp = 3 ; 051
pb8.bmp = 3 ; 052
gOPT_I.bmp = 3 ; 053
tickr.bmp = 3 ; 054
selQ.bmp = 3 ; 055
R1.bmp = 3 ; 056
pb9.bmp = 3 ; 057
pvbload.exe = 4 ; 058
adoce31.dll = 4 ; 059
pvbdecl.dll = 4 ; 060
msdaer.dll = 4 ; 061
pvbform2.dll = 4 ; 062
msdadc.dll = 4 ; 063
MSCEFile.dll = 4 ; 064
msdaosp.dll = 4 ; 065
vbscript.dll = 4 ; 066
msdaeren.dll = 4 ; 067
pvbhost2.dll = 4 ; 068
"MSCEComDlg.dll" = 4 ; 069
"adoceoledb31.dll" = 4 ; 070
adoxce31.dll = 4 ; 071
"adocedb30.dll" = 4 ; 072
"MSCEPicture.dll" = 4 ; 073
"adocedb31.dll" = 4 ; 074
[DefaultInstall]
CESelfRegister = adoce31.dll,pvbdecl.dll,msdaer.dll,pvbform2.dll,msdadc.dll,MSCEFile.dll,msdaosp.dll,vbscript.dll,msdaeren.dll,pvbhost2.dll,"MSCEComDlg.dll","adoceoledb31.dll",adoxce31.dll,"adocedb30.dll","MSCEPicture.dll","adocedb31.dll"
CEShortcuts = RaccourcisCourts
CopyFiles = CopierVersDir01,CopierVersDir02
[CopierVersDir01] ; (%CE1%\PoQuickPro : \Program Files\PoQuickPro)
TranBot.bmp
"ReportBack.bmp"
R2.bmp
"Statement.bmp"
rOPT_BS.bmp
gOPT_SI.bmp
"PlainTitle.bmp"
FromTo.bmp
Calc2.bmp
gOPT_NW.bmp
pb20.bmp
"FunctionTitle.bmp"
"Transaction.wav"
pb21.bmp
pb10.bmp
PageUp.bmp
Overview.bmp
pb11.bmp
pb12.bmp
pb0.bmp
PageDown.bmp
"PoQuickPro.vb"
Toolbarp.bmp
tabsp.bmp
pb13.bmp
pb1.bmp
mainp.bmp
tick.bmp
pb2.bmp
pb14.bmp
CInc.bmp
CExp.bmp
pb3.bmp
pb15.bmp
splashp.bmp
pb4.bmp
pb16.bmp
gOPT_E.bmp
gBack.bmp
Calc.bmp
pb5.bmp
pb17.bmp
gOPT_AB.bmp
pb6.bmp
pb18.bmp
mscroll.bmp
rOPT_PL.bmp
pb7.bmp
pb19.bmp
gOPT_SE.bmp
R0.bmp
pb8.bmp
gOPT_I.bmp
tickr.bmp
selQ.bmp
R1.bmp
pb9.bmp
[CopierVersDir02] ; (%CE2% : \Windows)
pvbload.exe
adoce31.dll,,,0x00000000
pvbdecl.dll,,,0x00000000
msdaer.dll,,,0x00000000
pvbform2.dll,,,0x00000000
msdadc.dll,,,0x00000000
MSCEFile.dll,,,0x00000000
msdaosp.dll,,,0x00000000
vbscript.dll,,,0x00000000
msdaeren.dll,,,0x00000000
pvbhost2.dll,,,0x00000000
"MSCEComDlg.dll",,,0x00000000
"adoceoledb31.dll",,,0x00000000
adoxce31.dll,,,0x00000000
"adocedb30.dll",,,0x00000000
"MSCEPicture.dll",,,0x00000000
"adocedb31.dll",,,0x00000000
[DestinationDirs]
CopierVersDir01 = 0, %InstallDir%
CopierVersDir02 = 0, %CE2%
RaccourcisCourts = 0, %InstallDir%
[RaccourcisCourts]
%Appname%, 0, "%AppName%.vb", %CE11% ; (\Windows\Start Menu\Programs)
So something with this mixed with your runtime right after to install works | |
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| Sounds like the x86 core DLL isn't regsrving properly. Shiny penny says no one ever actually tested it. | |
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| There is nothing in the POS installer except that they added ADOCE, which is not part of the CEVB runtime. The only thing that I can think of is that it is the 0x20000001 copy flag.
Does the windows folder on the device have any of the CEVB2 DLL's in it before you install?
FINANCE.DLL
MSCECOMDLG.DLL
MSCECOMM.DLL
MSCECOMMANDBAR.DLL
MSCEFILE.DLL
MSCEGRID.DLL
MSCEIMAGE.DLL
MSCEIMAGELIST.DLL
MSCELISTVIEW.DLL
MSCEPICTURE.DLL
MSCETABSTRIP.DLL
MSCETREEVIEW.DLL
MSCEWINSOCK.DLL
PDM.DLL
PVBDECL.DLL
PVBFORM2.DLL
PVBHOST2.DLL
VBRMON.DLL
VBSCRIPT.DLL
If it does can you manually delete them and try it again? | |
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| I did a hard reset and none of those dlls are on the device | |
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| humm, that puts an end to that idea then. Annoying because I just finished patching CABMaker to overcome what I thought was the problem 
If you install the x86 CE 3 CAB on the clean x86 device, could you please TRE export me the entire registry after installing. I'll have a look.
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| I will but see what I’m confused about. The poquick seems to install more
Dlls than the vbce installer.
But yes I’ll get that for you | |
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| Screw it, as I've coded it. Attached has non-standard copy flags | |
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| Quote torch - 2023-01-25 3:28 PM
I will but see what I’m confused about. The poquick seems to install more
Dlls than the vbce installer.
But yes I’ll get that for you As I said above, it's installing ADOCE. ADOCE is a C runtime, not part of VB. | |
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| What .vb app are you testing with btw, it should be something simple? | |
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| I just do simple stuff. (You can check my compatibility results in the SCL to see which worked)
Anyway, it’s more my OCD in not wanting to install two cabs for vb instead of just one.
I’m realistic and know that not every vb program will work.
I think I’ve gotten 60% of the vbce2.0 programs running | |
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| Quote C:Amie - 2023-01-25 8:35 AM
Screw it, as I've coded it. Attached has non-standard copy flags
Still doesn't work by itself
It only works if I install PoQuick first, then your runtime after.
Anyway, I have the .reg file from my MP790 for you that was requested Attachments ----------------  mobilepro790registryexport.reg (184KB - 1 downloads) | |
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| Thanks. Could you please dump me the x86 on too, may as well look at that while I'm at it. Cheers. | |
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| Do you want me to give you four dumps?
1-Stock
2-After POQuick (no other cab installed)
3-After VBCE2.0 (no other cab installed)
4-After POQucik/VBCE2.0 cocktail | |
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| Yeah, you can do, if you don't mind. Thanks.
Try the attached? | |
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Seconds to generate: 0.234 - Cached queries : 73 - Executed queries : 9
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