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| I can’t figure out why (but I suspect it’s the Microsoft Windows Defender built in antivirus but:
My Windows 11 22H2 laptop lags to the point where it’s basically unusable for 30 seconds when:
I plug in a usb flash drive
Download exe, zip files
Extract zip files using Windows Explorer
I suspect it’s the antivirus scanning but is it normal to bog the computer to where it’s not usable ? |
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| If you open task manager you should see a process spike up in CPU usage, which one is it? |
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Administrator H/PC Oracle Posts: | 17,974 |
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| It can also be smart screen checking file signatures with Microsoft causing the delay if you have poor internet connectivity (or none) |
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| No, it's not normal.
I have a ASUS laptop with 11th gen. i5 with 8GB of RAM, but it doesn't do that when I plug in USB / HDD etc. It used to be a Windows 10 machine, I upgraded it to Windows 11. |
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| I imagine that you could easily prove if it's windows defender or not by disabling it temporarily and seeing if it's normal... |
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| I haven’t been able to replicate it but I had turned off a bunch of defender settings.
Let me play with it and I’ll follow up when I have an answer
I did update Firefox. I wonder if it was some sort of bug with that. Let me also install the Microsoft January 2022 patch Tuesday updates too |
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| Did you disable smart screen and reputation checking? |
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| To the first - I had almost all turned off but found the final two settings to also turn off
To the second - yes I turned that off
^I did all of the settings changes when I made the thread.
Maybe it worked- it was just weird because it didn't immediately take effect. Because the slowdowns were still occurring "Day 0" when I changed the settings |
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| So...fixed now? |
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| I think---I just thought it was odd that the new settings didn't immediately take effect. Maybe I'll re-enable everything and see? |
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| It happened again - the only process (other than VirtualBox) that was the highest CPU percentage was the Antimalware Service Executable which peaked at 7% (when the slowdown occurred)
Maybe it happens because my CPU isn't really meant to use VirtualBox, and thus the antimalware even though it's only 7% is enough to bog the computer down? |
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| What are the interrupt's doing and what is the disk queue when it happens? You'll have to run a trace. |
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| Not to hijack the topic but...am I the only person who doesn't use anti-malware, virus protectors, or anything that is supposed to protect and guard your computers? Since the 1970s I have never used anything...not even firewalls...I either turn it off, disable it, or actually uninstall it from my OS.
One time I got the pesky FBI notice my computer was locked up after downloading and decompressing a pirated file...think they wanted me to send them $50.....guess that was in the early '90s, but since I religously (automatically) make routine hard drive images for backup using the old Symantec Ghost...even that wasn't a problem really...
I intensely hate anything that slows down my computers...and only once in 40 years was I bitten... |
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| Well presumably your broadband router is supplying an edge firewall, or you'd have long since been ravaged by the world and his wife |
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| Quote Rich Hawley - 2023-01-20 2:54 PM
Not to hijack the topic but...am I the only person who doesn't use anti-malware, virus protectors, or anything that is supposed to protect and guard your computers? Since the 1970s I have never used anything...not even firewalls...I either turn it off, disable it, or actually uninstall it from my OS.
One time I got the pesky FBI notice my computer was locked up after downloading and decompressing a pirated file...think they wanted me to send them $50.....guess that was in the early '90s, but since I religously (automatically) make routine hard drive images for backup using the old Symantec Ghost...even that wasn't a problem really...
I intensely hate anything that slows down my computers...and only once in 40 years was I bitten...
That stuff and the constant "security updates" are all pushing us closer and closer to operating system as a service. They want you to rent everything and own nothing. It's horrifying. |
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