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Snappy! Page Icon Posted 2005-10-26 10:13 PM
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This should be of interest ... ftp://ftp.handhelds.org/projects/jornada/720/jornada720.txt

grabbed from http://www.handhelds.org/hypermail/jornada/15/1524.html
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sophisticatedleaf Page Icon Posted 2005-10-26 11:45 PM
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Snappy! - 2005-10-26 7:00 PM

Quoted from NETBSD hpcsh port newsgroup
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On Fri, Jul 01, 2005 at 15:03:39 +0800, Oleg Gritsak wrote:

> I've been wondering, whats the main reason of suspend/resume absence
> in hpcsh port? Lack of specs or interest? Or maybe some other?

I have some ideas (mostly gleaned from wince), but I have ~zero time
to experiment.

The idea for the *real* suspend is to power down everything, prefetch
the wake-up interrupt handler into CPU cache and point VBR to the
prefetched handler.

SY, Uwe


Maybe this is what's needed?

EDIT:

PS, this is for you and anyone who is chipping into this porting effort ...

http://www.windowsfordevices.com/articles/AT2608778568.html
http://www.intel.com/design/strong/guides/278278.htm

http://www.intel.com/design/strong/manuals/278240.htm -- Read section 4.4 for details on the system registers for turning off devices etc ...



Isn't that what I said?

I have pinged them, but nothing seems to be moving, they are relying on the 2.6 kernel as much as I am if I recall correctly...

Any way to get directly to kristoffer? He's who I really need to contact, and is not on their irc room much.
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sophisticatedleaf Page Icon Posted 2005-10-26 11:50 PM
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Heh. I would rather not rollback, instead of just diving into it and seeing where it goes. I always learn more that way.

Besides, I hate formatting and recopying the whole system into my cf. It will be running perfectly once I can get the uclibc toolchain compile to stop getting errors.

Snappy!, once I get the free time (I have...a lot of things to do first) I can get into programming. This time I might as well finish it, considering that I can practice on my 720 anywhere (It isn't all that fun to learn stuck in a room for hours).
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sophisticatedleaf Page Icon Posted 2005-10-27 1:33 AM
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Snappy! convinced me to learn how to program. I guess I will learn C first, as I finally have resources to do so, and a book from my favorite dummies author (Dan Gookin) (finally!). Once I have time, which should not be in too long, I can get started.

-Oh, if no one has noticed, some things came up, and my activity on the forum will be erratic. (In other words, I might not be on for a week or weeks at a time).
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karloch Page Icon Posted 2005-11-20 11:09 AM
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Take a look to this site: http://armlinux.simtec.co.uk/kautobuild/2.6.15-rc2/index.html

It provides with tested, known to work, kernel 2.6 build configuration files. Among the tested machines you can find the Jornada 720, with a working config file.
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sophisticatedleaf Page Icon Posted 2005-11-21 1:51 AM
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I think I have found myself there before...

Thanks for that, but I still want to know what on earth is going on with the official 2.6 kernel for the 720. A progress bar would be nice.
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sophisticatedleaf Page Icon Posted 2005-11-26 4:47 PM
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Ok, just so everyone knows, gtmess turned out to be...a mess.

It doesn't work well, and unless if it gets fixed, I will use centericq instead. Its essentially a console equivalent to gaim, all your protocols in one nice little place.
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sophisticatedleaf Page Icon Posted 2005-11-27 10:19 PM
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Perhaps, since I am building a distribution, I really should be using the testing 2.6 kernel.

More information on that later, with the results!

-Oh, and I decided J-720 Linux just is too sloppy of a name. I will come up with one (of course in another language) later, that shows what this distribution is all about.
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sophisticatedleaf Page Icon Posted 2005-11-29 2:25 AM
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Well, looks like the people are talking about my advances on todopocketpc, a spanish forum. Unfortunately, I need to learn a lot more of the language before I can reply (or register)

It seems that it is mentioned that my distro could save their handhelds, but I am thinking: I need a *string of curses* KERNEL FIRST!
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karloch Page Icon Posted 2005-11-30 6:41 PM
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ProgramSynthesiser - 2005-11-29 8:25 AM

Well, looks like the people are talking about my advances on todopocketpc, a spanish forum. Unfortunately, I need to learn a lot more of the language before I can reply (or register)

You would be welcome

ProgramSynthesiser - 2005-11-29 8:25 AM

It seems that it is mentioned that my distro could save their handhelds, but I am thinking: I need a *string of curses* KERNEL FIRST!

Indeed, a fully functional Debian distro would save our lovely handhelds with a cutting edge operating system.

About the Kernel, I though that JLime was dead since no update were posted for a long time, but some days ago Kristoffer appeared again, so it looks like the 2.6 porting to J7xx is still going on.

I think that it would be good that you talk with Kristoffer and tell him that you are interested on using their Kernel for your project.
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sophisticatedleaf Page Icon Posted 2005-12-06 8:57 PM
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Doesn't he know? The problem is that it is so hard to communicate with him. The only feasable way seems through the forum...in spanish. I heard he doesn't speak english much/well.

So far, I have had a 5 sentence conversation with him, some time ago.

Jlime, dead? No way. There's stuff going on.

You are on todopocketpc? Currently, I can understand stuff. But writing my own sentences is very hard, I usually can't say what I want to.

EDIT: I am definitely learning C now. A few little dos programs so far, and I have learned that its not a good idea to cheat your way through, and use shortcuts like put instead of printf, and gets instead of scanf. (Long story short, one displays stuff right, the other doesn't. I don't mind the extra characters to get things right.)

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karloch Page Icon Posted 2005-12-11 4:44 PM
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ProgramSynthesiser - 2005-12-07 2:57 AM

Doesn't he know? The problem is that it is so hard to communicate with him. The only feasable way seems through the forum...in spanish. I heard he doesn't speak english much/well.
JLime developers are not spanish. It has nothing to do with PocketPC.

ProgramSynthesiser - 2005-12-07 2:57 AM
You are on todopocketpc? Currently, I can understand stuff. But writing my own sentences is very hard, I usually can't say what I want to.
Yes, I am. If you want to say something special, you can do it in english. At todopocketpc there are also some foreing people.
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sophisticatedleaf Page Icon Posted 2005-12-18 9:42 PM
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Ok, I finally have a clear plan for busybox. For now, as I cannot compile, I will just go with Debian's coreutils. I will then delete just the ones that the system absolutely does not need complex parameters for, and use busybox for everything else. As far as tinylogin, I haven't had any problems with it so far.

Kernel 2.6 will be tested right after I can boot up properly.

I seriously need a means of cross-compiling. If anyone could please figure out how to do that, many problems would be gone. I am being constantly held back by the fact of necessary programs not being compiled for the platform.
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sophisticatedleaf Page Icon Posted 2006-01-10 9:27 PM
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Nope, they don't seem to have strongarm machines.

At this point, I need to either get a working cross-compiler, or a microdrive, and fast. If I take too long, these devices will be too old to turn on.

I guess I'll find some time to just work on getting a working cross-compiler, five hours straight or something..

I might get the money together for a microdrive sometime. But as Fry's stopped selling them, and Best Buy does, it looks like I will need to dish out almost $200 for a 4gb. All I want is a 2.2 for under $100... is that too much to ask?!

-Freaking bussiness, technology and economy. Always making things harder for me.
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