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C:Amie Page Icon Posted 2024-01-19 7:33 AM
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There are no x86 generated CABs by the automated tools.
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C:Amie - 2024-01-19 7:33 AM


There are no x86 generated CABs by the automated tools.


What even is the source of the x86 eVB runtime? Where did it come from?

Edited by I dunk for bananas 2024-01-19 10:00 AM
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C:Amie - 2024-01-19 4:33 PM


There are no x86 generated CABs by the automated tools.

Oh yes, that is true, I think. Was it SH3, SH4, MIPS and ARM only for the automated tools?
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C:Amie Page Icon Posted 2024-01-19 11:23 AM
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I dunk for bananas - 2024-01-19 9:56 AM


C:Amie - 2024-01-19 7:33 AM


There are no x86 generated CABs by the automated tools.


What even is the source of the x86 eVB runtime? Where did it come from?


They were included in the HPC2000 dev tools release (which is the CE 3.0 standard SDK). At the time, MS were liberalising CE licensing with CE 3's arrival and that allowed licensing for x86. The DLL's were thrown in as an after thought to allow HPC2000 to continue to work in the same way that H/PC Pro 3.0 did with eVT 3.0.

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There are no x86 generated CABs by the automated tools.

Oh yes, that is true, I think. Was it SH3, SH4, MIPS and ARM only for the automated tools?

Correct. They were not altered from 2.11.
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torch Page Icon Posted 2024-01-19 5:20 PM
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C:Amie, would the eVB quirks still apply if I dunk for bananas were to try to use eVC 4 to compile ?

Just curious since 3.0 was mentioned earlier.

Also let me know if you all need help resting on 6.0 x86.

I also wonder if some of this is related to when we tried with @WinCEDev to get the vb screenshot program running on x86
https://www.hpcfactor.com/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=21065&start=16
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C:Amie Page Icon Posted 2024-01-19 5:52 PM
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You cannot use eVC to compile Visual Basic (eVB)
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I dunk for bananas Page Icon Posted 2024-01-19 7:45 PM
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Maybe there'd be different results if I tried a different eVB version, do we have any other versions around?
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The only other x86 version I am aware of is the x86em from 2.11.

You could try compiling it in VB6 rather than eVT in the event that it's an eVT byte code issue.
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torch Page Icon Posted 2024-01-19 8:21 PM
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To the best of my knowledge, 2.12 was the first x86 for actual hardware. Maybe I dunk for bananas can add this to her tools?

https://www.hpcfactor.com/downloads/2961/Windows_CE_2.12_x86_Targets_for_eVT_Visual_Studio_6.0

x86EM programs don't work on x86, since x86em was like a weird recompilation of CE on NT hardware ( if memory serves ) - I think TFGBD had luck hex editing simple stuff but overall not working.

Also I think I misspoke, I don't think there's a EVB 4.0 so I didn't mean to be confusing before
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torch Page Icon Posted 2024-01-19 10:07 PM
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I also found some more SDKs, including one for CE2.12 (presumably x86) here
Not sure if it's any different than the HPC:Factor version
https://junipersys.com/support/article/1669
AllegroCE/DOS 2.12 Field PC

VB 2.12

Custom SDK
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C:Amie - 2024-01-19 7:53 PM


The only other x86 version I am aware of is the x86em from 2.11.

You could try compiling it in VB6 rather than eVT in the event that it's an eVT byte code issue.


How exactly can I build an eVB application with VB6?
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I dunk for bananas Page Icon Posted 2024-01-20 3:01 AM
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Okay I managed to build it with VB6, but it yields the same result I'll do more testing tomorrow
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Blimey, you had a late night!

So it's not the compiler then, yeesh. And yet someone else's vb so works fine. But a blank project and the last amount of code needed to display the control also breaks on CE 5
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C:Amie - 2024-01-20 7:24 AM


Blimey, you had a late night!

So it's not the compiler then, yeesh. And yet someone else's vb so works fine. But a blank project and the last amount of code needed to display the control also breaks on CE 5


Yeah It's so perplexing
If only we had the source code to that notepad application.. Is there maybe some other open source eVB application that would allow me to check if its implementation of the common dialogs ends up working?
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What about MobileCubed' H-Bomb, we have the source for that?

https://www.hpcfactor.com/scl/8/MobileCubed/H-Bomb/version_1.3

Edit: Line 948 / 1003 in frmHBomb.ebf for .ShowOpen

This is the object property initialisation:
Left = 1560 Top = 2880 _cx = 847 _cy = 847 CancelError = 0 'False Color = 0 DefaultExt = "" DialogTitle = "" FileName = "" Filter = "All Files (*.*)|*.*" FilterIndex = 0 Flags = 0 HelpCommand = 0 HelpContext = "" HelpFile = "" InitDir = "" MaxFileSize = 256 FontBold = 0 'False FontItalic = 0 'False FontName = "" FontSize = 10 FontUnderline = 0 'False Max = 0 Min = 0 FontStrikethru = 0 'False
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