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C:Amie Page Icon Posted 2022-05-17 9:03 AM
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Jake,

What was it that you didn't like, specifically?
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torch Page Icon Posted 2022-05-17 5:28 PM
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Jake - 2022-05-16 7:12 PM

I finally sat down and watched all of the lugubrious Blade Runner 2049. My god, that thing needed an editor, starting with excising all of H Ford and ending with a cut of at least 60 mins. Which would've excised Ford Loved the first one (except its director's cut), 2049 visually spectacular, and after The Believer, I've become an odd fan of R Gosling, but it was 2 hours and 47 minutes of my life I'll never get back.

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Here's my thoughts on Blade Runner 2049.
The cinematography is absolutely stunning. Literally, every single frame of the film you could probably frame on your wall. But yes, I agree with you on the editing. I feel like every shot was way too long. I think the film would have been perfect with about one hour deleted at least. I think it's a shame that 2-3 hour movies are the norm. I think sometimes, less is more. For instance, my favorite Hong Kong director from the 1990s prided himself on movies around 90 minutes. I wish sometimes more movies strove for that as a goal (obviously not chopping up the movie and deleting too much stuff)
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Jake Page Icon Posted 2022-05-17 6:27 PM
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Chris, I felt H Ford's presence didn't justify the time spent on it. Clearly, he had clout with the script and wasn't going to settle for a cameo. Secondly, I thought the ultimately simple plot, no matter how they tried to complicate it, also didn't justify 2 hours and 47 minutes.

It was clever to have an android hunt androids, and Gosling's mistaken sense of self was intriguing as well, though far too drawn out. For me, the absence of well-rounded bad guys was another problem. In BR 1, R Hauer was a scary badass, but the film ends with a lot of sympathy for him. In this one, the bad guys are pretty one-dimensional, so any tension devolves into increasingly pointless chases (eg that silly sinking plane).

I agree with torch--it's a beautiful film (and its beauty, had I seen it on the big screen, might've overcome my misgivings about plot vs length) but I found it so ponderous despite its remarkable structure.

Have you seen The Believer? That's R Gosling's tour de force. Despite some questionable choice of roles (eg La La Land), that guy can act.

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Rich Hawley Page Icon Posted 2022-05-21 8:14 PM
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Just watched season 3 of Love, Death, and Robots on Netflix...excellent...especially "Night of the Mini Dead."
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