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Snappy! Page Icon Posted 2005-06-21 8:35 AM
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Hi all,

Where can I download Windows CE.NET 4.1 SDK?

I downloaded and installed eVC4.0/sp4 + PPC2003SDK and got a screen rotate app compiled only to find that it does not work in the SIMpad SL4 /w CE.NET 4.1. Granted its for PPCs, I reckoned it could also be due to the fact that PPC2003SDK is based on 4.2 instead of 4.1

I also have eVC3.0 + PPC2002SDK, but it is based on CE3.0! ... am I missing something here? How do I write/compile code to target CE.NET 4.1 devices?

Again, where can I download Windows CE.NET 4.1 SDK?
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chiark Page Icon Posted 2005-06-21 11:23 AM
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You need EVC4, as you already have. Add SP3 to it too!

MSDN now has an embedded developer centre -
http://msdn.microsoft.com/embedded/downloads/default.aspx

The CE section has all you need...
http://msdn.microsoft.com/embedded/downloads/ce/default.aspx

You want the standard software development kit.


Good luck

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Snappy! Page Icon Posted 2005-06-21 2:18 PM
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chiark - 2005-06-21 9:23 AM

Hi,
You need EVC4, as you already have. Add SP3 to it too!

MSDN now has an embedded developer centre -
http://msdn.microsoft.com/embedded/downloads/default.aspx

The CE section has all you need...
http://msdn.microsoft.com/embedded/downloads/ce/default.aspx

You want the standard software development kit.

Good luck


Hi Chiark, thanks for your info and links! I've downloaded the standard SDK and going to install ... *phew* ... finally.

Is that why there are so few apps for WinCE.NET devices other than the mobile phones?
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Snappy! Page Icon Posted 2005-06-21 3:08 PM
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ok, is it just me or is CE.NET 4.1 being phased out already or sent to oblivion? The standard SDK turned out to support only CE.NET 4.20. It will only generate binary for 4.2 devices. grrr

So I am now back to square one. Where on earth, good MS, can I download the SDK for 4.1??

I've scourged through the links about and also through google. *sigh*

EDIT: I don't know if this is good or bad news. Some nice folks just replied to my queries on the newsgroup:

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Contact the OEM for an SDK for the device. There is no general purpose SDK
for use with all devices.


on the bright side, I can stop searching stupid MSDN for a non-existent SDK. On the DARK side, I may have found a dead end, since Siemens EOLed this product already.

Anyone with any idea?

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cmonex Page Icon Posted 2005-06-21 5:43 PM
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you can try building hpc2000 apps and most of them will run on 4.1... trial & error?
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Snappy! Page Icon Posted 2005-06-21 6:01 PM
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cmonex - 2005-06-21 3:43 PM

you can try building hpc2000 apps and most of them will run on 4.1... trial & error?


well, hpc2000 apps will work with the relevant dlls. Unfortunately, the api set used for screen rotation is found in coredll.lib during compile time and is only available in the CE.NET 4.x SDK. In short, the app I am writing cannot be written against hpc2k sdk.
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Yoldering Page Icon Posted 2005-06-21 6:18 PM
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Snappy! Have you tried SDK for Windows Mobile 2003-based Smartphones?
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/ThankYou.aspx?familyId=a6c4f799-ec5c-427c-807c-4c0f96765a81&displayLang=en
all I could find.
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C:Amie Page Icon Posted 2005-06-21 6:27 PM
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Shame I've been away all day, I could have saved you 7 hours of searching here You need visual studio to pull it off.
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Snappy! Page Icon Posted 2005-06-21 6:50 PM
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Yoldering - 2005-06-21 4:18 PM

Snappy! Have you tried SDK for Windows Mobile 2003-based Smartphones?
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/ThankYou.aspx?familyId=a6c4f799-ec5c-427c-807c-4c0f96765a81&displayLang=en
all I could find.


Yeap, tried. I think I've tried almost all the SDKs!
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Snappy! Page Icon Posted 2005-06-21 6:52 PM
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C:Amie - 2005-06-21 4:27 PM

Shame I've been away all day, I could have saved you 7 hours of searching here You need visual studio to pull it off.


grump grump grump
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chiark Page Icon Posted 2005-06-22 5:28 AM
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Chris, I'm being thick here: are you saying the SDK is not at all available, or only available with Visual Studio?
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C:Amie Page Icon Posted 2005-06-22 8:07 AM
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If you want to do anything with .net code for CE4.1 you need to use Visual Studio 003 and above. You also need the framework update.

Unlike 4.2 and 5.0 there isn't a standard sdk release, the SDK's actually come from Platform Builder based on the selected BSP. Meaning it's down to the OEM whether or not they want to release it.
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chiark Page Icon Posted 2005-06-23 4:00 AM
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Well, that little snippet of information has put me right off a Simpad
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C:Amie Page Icon Posted 2005-06-23 4:44 PM
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The question you need to ask yourself (other than "do you feel lucky punk... well, do ya?") is where is the SL4 4.1 SDK - was there even one in the first place.
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chiark Page Icon Posted 2005-06-24 4:14 AM
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Advantech have made the CE .net 4.1 SDK for x86 available. Not much use for compiling to arm, but at least you could test stuff out
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