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Alt Bass Page Icon Posted 2014-06-11 2:16 PM
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stingraze - 2014-06-11 12:44 AM

idea, somehow make Readyboost for Windows CE, Alt Bass. Worth a try.


I prefer turning on FAT caching.
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C:Amie Page Icon Posted 2014-06-11 2:53 PM
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OK, so I took your screenshot and converted it into a spread sheet (attached)

It doesn't add up fully because it doesn't include the hardware / kernel and there are rows missing by the look of it. However.

It's an unfair comparison because the screenshot isn't from safe mode.

Steam and Raptr are game services

CCC and MOM are the service manager for your display driver

SearchIndex is the search service and clearly that is still running with 50mb on it

IAStore... is the Intel Rapid Storage utility that alerts you if your RAID configuration is going wrong

RAVcpl64 is the daemon for your sound drivers utility

wmpnetwrk.exe can be killed by disabling media sharing services in Windows Media Player / Network & Sharing Centre.

Most of the rest of it is fairly normal, but most of it is COMMIT, the actual dedicated RAM requirement is 264MB, the rest of it is shared space or pending use (commit) - in other words, the app has asked for it to be available, the OS has guaranteed it to the app but it isn't being used yet so is available to anyone who wants it. It's included in the metric because while it isn't used it has been guaranteed to the app.


Your svchosts are pretty low. I have one at 200MB currently.



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Alt Bass Page Icon Posted 2014-06-11 6:51 PM
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Here's one from the safe mode (few entries left are small enough).

http://storage9.static.itmages.ru/i/14/0611/h_1402509142_8347880_82ad8c02ef.jpg
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Alt Bass Page Icon Posted 2014-06-11 6:53 PM
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C:Amie - 2014-06-11 5:53 PM

OK, so I took your screenshot and converted it into a spread sheet (attached)


I know purpose of most of these processes.

Still: 6700 available means that 1500 is used. 1500 does not really equal 870.


Here's one from the safe mode (few entries left are small enough).

http://storage9.static.itmages.ru/i/14/0611/h_1402509142_8347880_82ad8c02ef.jpg


Do I get it right: "available" is amount of memory which I can malloc and use without swap?

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C:Amie Page Icon Posted 2014-06-12 9:33 AM
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To quote a sci-fi franchise of one sort or another: It's a Trap

1500 != 870, true. 870 == PROCESSES. You are forgetting the kernel, drivers and resources.

To be specific, I can tell you that Resource Monitors 'In Use' is the aggregate of ACTIVE (not commit) memory using the following formula:

In Use = (Processes + Mapped Files + Sharable Resident Data + the Page Table itself + Paged Pool + Non-paged Pool + Virtual Memory Mapping Table + Logged-on Windows User Account Session Data + NTFS Metafile (if NTFS in use) + Drivers + Kernel).

Using resource monitor, you are only seeing the Process stack.

How are those hard faults?

p.s. I'll take a guess and state that most of what you're missing from the 1500 is sitting in Mapped Files. SuperFetch, NT Cache Management, Windows Update Database, Windows Search database, indexing database and anything else that something has asked to co-lo into RAM.
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Alt Bass Page Icon Posted 2014-06-12 12:09 PM
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Ok then. I will write a simple application which sequently mallocs huge memory pieces and mangles them and will see at which point HDD gets used - this will give me exact knowing of what I want to know.


I will do it right after I recover my windows partition with HBCD - *indows bluescreened and after that I can't do anything even through windows repair tool of the boot CD. But that is completely different story.


EDIT: Launched HBCD, ran chkdsk, it fixed something, it is fine now. What the hell?.. Windows repair tool can't even bring me up the console so that I can chkdsk the system volume, it just hangs.

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C:Amie Page Icon Posted 2014-06-16 9:04 AM
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I wonder what happened to cause that much damage? Is it all OK now?

I rebooted my system for the first time in a long time this morning. 1800mb on start
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Alt Bass Page Icon Posted 2014-06-16 5:00 PM
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C:Amie - 2014-06-16 12:04 PM

I wonder what happened to cause that much damage? Is it all OK now?



It is ok now and I can't even think of what it could be. Interesting: ICH9R firmware showed at boot time that SMART command failed for the drive which holds system.

Also: there is no corresponding entry in eventvwr.

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I rebooted my system for the first time in a long time this morning. 1800mb on start


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Alt Bass Page Icon Posted 2014-06-16 6:07 PM
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>ICH9R firmware once showed at boot time just after the BSoD that SMART command failed for the drive which holds system.

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C:Amie Page Icon Posted 2014-06-16 6:56 PM
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I suggest that you pull WD Tools, Sea Tools, Samsun Magician etc and see if you can get full access to the SMART metrics.

Windows doesn't log SMART events to the event viewer, it needs something like the RST daemon to do it.

Either way, I recommend doing a backup if your haven't already and then check the diagnostics - also check whether your drive is warranty covered. The manufacturers all have checker tools.
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Alt Bass Page Icon Posted 2014-06-16 7:08 PM
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I mean there is no entry about BSoD.

My drive is not warranty covered. Even worse: I do not use a single piece of technology which is covered by warranty except monopod and ball head for it and ATMEGA32 and one objective.

I do backups for sure.

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Alt Bass - 2014-06-11 6:01 PM

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The better question is what in the processes are consuming 900MB of actual RAM? Are you reading actual or committed?


I am reading "available". AFAIC it is commited minus what is moved to swap file.

After another attempt it is better but still awful for a safe mode.



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source monitor, did you maek it?
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Alt Bass Page Icon Posted 2014-06-18 6:08 PM
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Not really, it may be called from Task Manager or from Start menu.
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Alt Bass Page Icon Posted 2014-06-18 8:03 PM
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God dammit. I found an easter egg!

Microsoft could not say this straight.

http://storage6.static.itmages.ru/i/14/0618/h_1403118309_9320219_c101ef7eda.png

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C:Amie Page Icon Posted 2014-06-18 8:33 PM
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It's been copied verbatim from the VS2003 version http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ts7eyw4s(v=vs.71).aspx

Lazy editing rather than an Easter egg me thinks.
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