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| I was just wondering if it's possible to get starcraft installed on a nec mobilepro 780 mips. I'm runing hpc pro. Thanks for any help.
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| Read what Starcraft requires to install:
Pentium class Processor with MMX
Windows 95
32 MB Ram
~160MB HDD Space
Does your Mobilepro have any of those specifications? (Hint: Yours is running on a MIPs 16bit.... Pentiums are 32bit... also, your Mobilepro doens't have Windows 95 or a hard drive!) |
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| i think MIPS isn't 16 bit but 32 bit
and SH4 is 64 bit |
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| I can see why it's rather confusing.
There are 16-bit, 32-bit and 64-bit versions of MIPS and 32-bit and 64-bit versions of SH4.
As for whether the Aero 8000 is a 64-bit device, which I think cmonex is referring to... it depends where/how you google.
http://www.pdamania.hu/machines.php3?&id=165&do=1 say it's 32-bit
http://www.pcauthority.com.au/review.aspx?CIaRID=578&CatID=51 say it's 64-bit
The quick spec says 64-bit, the manaul says nothing.
The SH4 itself is capable of producing 32-bit and 64-bit results out of the cpu (same as MIPS ). Full, unparalleled 64-bit support in Windows CE (as we would know it on the PC ) only arrived with the CE4 release.
The Dreamcast incidentally was a SH4 system - it has a 64-bit FPU and a 32-bit integer. Which I am guessing is what is going on in the Aero.
Just for laughs; the Sega Saturn used a SH2 (32-bit ) CPU
SH5 is 64-bit (32-bit addressing ) the SH6 and the pending SH7 are pure 64-bit processors. |
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| Thanks for the info. Guess i'll just go back to hunting for a wifi stumber program for my 780.
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| C:Amie - 2005-07-26 2:52 PM
hehehe pdamania.hu cool!
hmm but no site exist that doesn't make mistakes in specs etc
your explanation is quite logical though
what is sega saturn?
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| C:Amie - 2005-07-26 7:52 AM
I can see why it's rather confusing.
There are 16-bit, 32-bit and 64-bit versions of MIPS and 32-bit and 64-bit versions of SH4.
As for whether the Aero 8000 is a 64-bit device, which I think cmonex is referring to... it depends where/how you google.
http://www.pdamania.hu/machines.php3?&id=165&do=1 say it's 32-bit
http://www.pcauthority.com.au/review.aspx?CIaRID=578&CatID=51 say it's 64-bit
The quick spec says 64-bit, the manaul says nothing.
The SH4 itself is capable of producing 32-bit and 64-bit results out of the cpu (same as MIPS ). Full, unparalleled 64-bit support in Windows CE (as we would know it on the PC ) only arrived with the CE4 release.
The Dreamcast incidentally was a SH4 system - it has a 64-bit FPU and a 32-bit integer. Which I am guessing is what is going on in the Aero.
Just for laughs; the Sega Saturn used a SH2 (32-bit ) CPU
SH5 is 64-bit (32-bit addressing ) the SH6 and the pending SH7 are pure 64-bit processors.
Once again C:AMIE to the rescue... In a nice way!
Thanks Chris! |
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| Well the MIPS may be 64 bit, but it's running a 16bit OS :-) |
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H/PC Oracle Posts: | 16,175 |
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| Pete P., where did you read wince is 16 bit? |
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| I'm with cmonex on this one
WinCE is 196.874% not 16-bit - http://www.hpcfactor.com/support/windowsce/
Microsoft haven't pumped out a true 16-bit OS since 1993 (I said true ) |
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| Well I'll be darned! I always thought it was, with it's 65k color limit and some other stuff... I can be kind of ignorant sometimes :-)
So why cant x86 programming be run on another 32 bit system like the ARM or MIPS? ARM can run Windows, cant it? Why cant our systems use a translator chip like Transmeta, who's chips run on the ultra-effecient VLIW instructions? |
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H/PC Philosopher Posts: | 265 |
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| I now see that WinCE can operate on a Pentium class computer... Interesting! |
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| I see now how they got Age of Empires to do the swap.... Why not Westwood's Command and Conquer and Blizzard's Starcraft? I cant even imagine the fun.....
"Porting Existing Applications
One way to take advantage of H/PC capabilities is to port existing desktop applications to the H/PC and optimize them for mobile professionals. Many Microsoft Windows 95 applications can be ported to Windows CE with much less effort than would be required to develop them from scratch. Ideas and algorithms from Windows-based applications are easily transferred to the Windows CE environment.
The main requirement is that H/PC applications be designed with the smaller device's characteristics in mind. Memory, power, user-interaction devices, and the broad range of CPU and communications options are all critical concerns when porting. For example, hardware design determines whether the user interacts with the device by typing on a keyboard, giving speech commands, or writing on the screen with a stylus.
Because the Windows CE operating system is designed to use a subset of the Win32 application programming interface (API) from the Windows NT operating system and a similar driver model, recompiling applications for the H/PC is a straightforward process."
I wonder if they ever thought about doing this...........
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| Pete P. - 2005-07-28 6:45 AM
Well I'll be darned! I always thought it was, with it's 65k color limit and some other stuff... I can be kind of ignorant sometimes :-)
So why cant x86 programming be run on another 32 bit system like the ARM or MIPS? ARM can run Windows, cant it? Why cant our systems use a translator chip like Transmeta, who's chips run on the ultra-effecient VLIW instructions?
oh, i never liked transmeta... i heard it's not efficient enough but i never had experience with it, so don't count me
if you want real windows, you would want to use a hard disk then... and lose instant-on and low power consumption. |
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