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yttan10 Page Icon Posted 2005-07-25 2:18 PM
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I am about to purchace a mobile pro 780 and I was curious as to what PIE for CE pro can do in terms of flash, java, php ect.

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cmonex Page Icon Posted 2005-07-25 2:24 PM
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forget all of them on a 780. if you want these features, get a newer HPC
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yttan10 Page Icon Posted 2005-07-25 2:28 PM
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what about third party explorers on 780?

p.s. I'm nearly broke

Edited by yttan10 2005-07-25 2:43 PM
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cmonex Page Icon Posted 2005-07-25 5:22 PM
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forget them.. if you find one (for example conduits' webbrowser..?) they will be even worse
but if you have some other uses for the 780, i'd recommend buying it!

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yttan10 Page Icon Posted 2005-07-26 1:53 AM
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Ok thanks for the help
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C:Amie Page Icon Posted 2005-07-26 8:02 AM
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erm, just to correct you here. PHP is a server side language, and will work. This site uses ASP / ASP.net and will work. As will JSP and CFM.
A limited JavaScript (JS) subset it available in HPC Pro based on the MSIE3 JS interpreter - but not all commands are supported.

There is no VB Script support

Java applets (class files) will not run without you sourcing a JVM
Flash is limited to version 3 and I've never managed to get it to work through PIE

So cmonex is off-base there.

This may be of some use:
http://www.hpcfactor.com/support/cesd/d/0001.asp
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yttan10 Page Icon Posted 2005-07-26 12:36 PM
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What about PIE on other CE operating systems, like 2000.
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C:Amie Page Icon Posted 2005-07-26 2:01 PM
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HPC2000 has a limited JS and VBS subset based on MSScript 4.5.
It doesn't have Java Class support - again you need to source a JVM.
HTML rendering is comparable with that of MSIE 4.01 RTM

CE 4.0 is MSScript 5.0 based on MSIE 5.01
CE 4.1 is MSScript 5.5 based on MSIE 5.5
CE 4.2 is MSScript 5.6 (same as MSIE 6.0 SP1 + updates) based on MSIE 6.0
CE 5.0 is MSScript 5.6 (same as XP SP2) based on MSIE 6.0 SP1

Again no Java Class support
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Snappy! Page Icon Posted 2005-07-26 2:59 PM
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As C:Amie mentioned, php is a server side script, as does ASP, JSP etc. Unless you are intending to host a web server with php plugin module (like ApacheCE or CEHTTP pr something), surfing websites that uses php, asp, jsp server-side scripts has not much implications on pocket explorer.
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cmonex Page Icon Posted 2005-07-26 5:10 PM
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C:Amie - 2005-07-26 2:02 PM

erm, just to correct you here. PHP is a server side language, and will work. This site uses ASP / ASP.net and will work. As will JSP and CFM.
A limited JavaScript (JS) subset it available in HPC Pro based on the MSIE3 JS interpreter - but not all commands are supported.

There is no VB Script support

Java applets (class files) will not run without you sourcing a JVM
Flash is limited to version 3 and I've never managed to get it to work through PIE

So cmonex is off-base there.

This may be of some use:
http://www.hpcfactor.com/support/cesd/d/0001.asp


well i wasn't really wrong.
php might work but even IE4 won't handle all of them, in my experience - but it could have been something else there. the pages were in php, but that won't necessarily mean that it was the problem. i didn't really care about that, though. i meant mostly flash and java.
i don't know of any java vm for hpc pro that will integrate into PIE. there's pjava, but that will not integrate. if you know of one, tell me, i'm interested. (it might run on hpc2000 too, and i always like to try new jvm's, you see )
flash 3 isn't worth anything.

these are why i didn't recommend IE3 in hpc pro to yttan10, as i see he (she? ) wants a richer browsing experience but i'm sorry that i didn't go into details so i could be misunderstood too easily
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cmonex Page Icon Posted 2005-07-26 5:18 PM
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C:Amie - 2005-07-26 8:01 PM

HPC2000 has a limited JS and VBS subset based on MSScript 4.5.
It doesn't have Java Class support - again you need to source a JVM.
HTML rendering is comparable with that of MSIE 4.01 RTM

CE 4.0 is MSScript 5.0 based on MSIE 5.01
CE 4.1 is MSScript 5.5 based on MSIE 5.5
CE 4.2 is MSScript 5.6 (same as MSIE 6.0 SP1 + updates) based on MSIE 6.0
CE 5.0 is MSScript 5.6 (same as XP SP2) based on MSIE 6.0 SP1

Again no Java Class support


i can recommend jeode for hpc2000/ce.net (if you have it - i mean jeode), or netfront3 (it is a browser with integrated java). or creme but i didn't really try it. (i did install it once, but i didn't have time and then i had to do a hard reset.. i'll look at it sometime in the near future..)
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Snappy! Page Icon Posted 2005-07-26 7:25 PM
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Yes, it is something else. PHP just spits out whatever its code generate. PHP itself is almost never sent back to the client, unless the PHP module is not setup proper in the web server itself. If it is configured right, the php parser/preprocessor would execute the script/code.

In the case where PHP generates plain html, there will be no issue, but when it generates javascript code or contains flash etc, then the client may not work, *if* it does not support the latter.

Client browsers are totally not aware of the existence of php code, and if it does receive it, it basically tries to parse it as html, and gives whatever output it interprets according to the HTML standard the browser understand.

Here's a link to a PHP tutorial ...

http://us2.php.net/tut.php

Above all, yttan10, I hope we are answering your question!
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cmonex Page Icon Posted 2005-07-26 7:43 PM
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thanks for the info
i'll try to understand what you just said about php generally
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yttan10 Page Icon Posted 2005-07-27 3:06 AM
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Ok, that info helps alot, thanks all, altho some was over my head, , I did understand what I needed to

and yes cmonex, I am a man, Im not sure what you are but I dont want to know, .
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