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Bad news for Windows 11 -- WMDC is toast

ax0n Page Icon Posted 2021-07-08 5:41 PM
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On my ThinkPad, I've been running Windows 10 in "Windows Insider Preview" mode on the "Dev Track" -- which is kind of like running beta Windows all the time. Bleeding edge stuff. Well, shortly after the Windows 11 announcement, my Windows 10 build started to look and feel an awful lot like the Windows 11 screenshots, and that's about the time Windows Mobile Device Center stopped working for me, even with the Juniper Systems "WMDC Fixes" patch.

Fortunately, I don't rely much on syncing to my desktop. I frequently use HP backup to make backups to CF cards (or rather, SD cards in a CF adapter) but this should be fair warning for anyone who's been using WMDC and relies on it in any way. Days are numbered.
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fantablium Page Icon Posted 2021-07-08 5:59 PM
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ax0n, thank you for the heads up! I shall delay moving to win11 for now at least.

Interestingly I have seen the palm hotsync working on Win11, so its clearly just MS causing the issues!

Perhaps someone will create a fix - there are still quite a lot of legacy handhelds in use by company's so you never know....
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C:Amie Page Icon Posted 2021-07-09 2:04 PM
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Based on the current prognosis, I think that Windows 11 is going to be toast and all!

It is certainly looking like it will become (rightly or wrongly) the new Vista for many.
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Jake Page Icon Posted 2021-07-09 3:56 PM
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Win10 EOL is October 14th, 2025. If Win11 tanks, do folks think Win10's EOL will be extended? Was XP's EOL ever extended due to Vista's failures?

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fantablium Page Icon Posted 2021-07-09 6:13 PM
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Jake, I could be wrong but I think XP had the longest support of any version of windows precisely because of Vista and the poor uptake of 7 by everyone who had been bitten already and reverted back to XP....

So yes I think if win 11 is rubbish the EOL on 10 will be extended
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Jake Page Icon Posted 2021-07-09 8:47 PM
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Works for me

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C:Amie Page Icon Posted 2021-07-12 11:17 AM
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By 2025, as you will need Intel 8th Gen or newer for Windows 11 based on the current spec, that kit will be 7 years old. I can see Microsoft a) wanting x86 to be done and dusted before then and b) that we'll be living in an ARM world by that point and might be starting to have similar thoughts about x64. Consequently, I suspect that Microsoft will push back against extending it. It really depends on how many companies offer counter pressure in trying to continue to run inexcusably insecure computing hardware purchased in 2018 post 2025. Given that we can predict a significant increase in media visible data breaches between now and then. I would not be convinced that the world will be as accommodating towards companies trying to save money by keeping dead 2018 tech alive in order to continue to roll Windows 10. Not in the same way as the world was as accommodating with Windows XP and Windows 7 anyway.
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Jake Page Icon Posted 2021-07-13 4:29 PM
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Given my aging hardware, I wonder what my EOL is. 2025 may be time enough

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C:Amie Page Icon Posted 2021-07-14 9:47 AM
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Interestingly, some folks have done some analysis and there appears to currently be nothing in the Windows 11 kernel that mandates the need for an 8th Gen+ or a TPM. It'll boot up fine all the way back to a non-UEFI 2009 Core 2 Duo without issue. Making the "minimum requirements" (currently) artificial in nature.

Does everyone know what to check in Windows/the UEFI/BIOS to see if their system can be made compatible? I can do a quick guide if you want.
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