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I dunk for bananas Page Icon Posted 2024-01-24 1:35 PM
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Has anyone tried it out yet?

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C:Amie Page Icon Posted 2024-01-24 2:33 PM
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I do not believe it was that specific one, but there was another thread somewhere from a few years ago where we were looking at a different, older implementation of this type of idea.
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I dunk for bananas Page Icon Posted 2024-01-25 9:34 AM
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Update: It's working very well. Only issue is getting GPU acceleration to work on the proxy server I've set up
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C:Amie Page Icon Posted 2024-01-25 10:02 AM
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What GPU is in the machine?
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C:Amie - 2024-01-25 10:02 AM


What GPU is in the machine?


The Beaglebone Black has a PowerVR SGX530
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C:Amie Page Icon Posted 2024-01-25 11:46 AM
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Ouch, that's a 65nm 200MHz chip from mid-2005. It has no OpenGL, OpenCL or Direct3D support.

This suggests that getting WebGL to work can be be a very picky problem:
https://github.com/ttalvitie/browservice/issues/44

... and according to this you would need some extensions to get it going
https://e2e.ti.com/support/processors-group/processors/f/processors-forum/1063165/am4378-about-webgl1-0-behavior

With this site concluding that acceleration is unsupportable on the chip
https://rk.edu.pl/en/benchmarking-beaglebone-black-single-board-computer/
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I dunk for bananas Page Icon Posted 2024-01-25 11:48 AM
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C:Amie - 2024-01-25 11:46 AM


Ouch, that's a 65nm 200MHz chip from mid-2005. It has no OpenGL, OpenCL or Direct3D support.

This suggests that getting WebGL to work can be be a very picky problem:
https://github.com/ttalvitie/browservice/issues/44

... and according to this you would need some extensions to get it going
https://e2e.ti.com/support/processors-group/processors/f/processors-forum/1063165/am4378-about-webgl1-0-behavior

With this site concluding that acceleration is unsupportable on the chip
https://rk.edu.pl/en/benchmarking-beaglebone-black-single-board-computer/



Oof, that sounds about right..
Do you think a first generation model b raspberry pi might be better suited? I have one of those lying around

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C:Amie Page Icon Posted 2024-01-25 3:08 PM
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The Pi 4 model B has OpenGL ES 3.1 and Vulkan 1.0 support
https://www.raspberrypi.com/products/raspberry-pi-4-model-b/specifications/

The BCM2835 in the first gen model B seems to have OpenGL ES2.0 and hardware-accelerated OpenVG https://raspberry-projects.com/pi/pi-hardware/bcm2835
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Is there a version of this that would run on a Jornada 680e or a 690 ? Im trying to find a way of speeding up the internet even a little. I wish there was a txt based browser or a less graphic intense browser for CE. I just want to read the news.
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torch Page Icon Posted 2024-02-18 6:06 PM
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This service relies on another computer "as an intermediary" so serve the content to your device, as I understand. I believe all browsing is still done within Pocket IE

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Browservice: Browser as a Service
A web "proxy" server that enables browsing the modern web on historical browsers. It works by rendering the browser viewport into images, which are then shown by a JavaScript application running on the client browser.
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joval Page Icon Posted 2024-03-07 3:31 PM
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Thanks C'Amie for directing me here, seems I'm not alone with these ideas afterall...having used the Raspberry pi 4 and 3 and mini-wifi with the WRP proxy. I will have to try out Browservice for a comparison with WRP for features. Presently hosting it on a minicube windows 10 computer... takes about 4 to 9 seconds to produce a webpage via gif image..... Like minds. ..............This post is via MP900c Kingston pcmcia ethernet card + (running from MP900 USB port) : ethernet to WPA2 adapter to Win10/WRP host

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joval Page Icon Posted 2024-03-07 6:36 PM
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Well, on quuick youtube review... Browservice requires a browser with javascript capability.... so it should work with MP900c's (and MP900's upgraded from WinCE Pro to CE 4.2) that pretty much KO's the Jornada series including J720 (runs rudimentary vbscript in PIE4). WRP doesn't require javascript and works even with PIE 3 (although slooooowly). Thus, WRP has greater applicability for our HPC's, IMO... it's just goint to be slower on page rendering from what I can predict...................... SO here I am writing this post on a MP900c via WRP (Web Rendering Proxy).
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joval Page Icon Posted 2024-03-07 6:52 PM
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Maybe Jake knows if netfront parses javascript. Does Opera-mini... did anyone ever get it running on the Jornada 720??
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torch Page Icon Posted 2024-03-07 7:04 PM
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joval - 2024-03-07 11:52 AM


Maybe Jake knows if netfront parses javascript. Does Opera-mini... did anyone ever get it running on the Jornada 720??

Try this with this
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Jake Page Icon Posted 2024-03-08 4:38 PM
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@joval I just examined the innards of Netfront 3.3 and didn't find anything about java. @torch would appear to have the sounder approach.

As for my own browsing, I'm still using a 3-Com wifi adapter connected to a secondary WEP128 router that is piggy-backed to the secure main router. From there, I can either use retroproxy (though the mothership must also use the 128WEP connection, which makes me uncomfortable) or simply work with 68k.news/frogfind (hit-or-miss), and Egret RSS/full text articles.

As for security issues with a weaker secondary router that is only used by the J720 but is still connected to the main router, I don't know. So I unplug secondary router when the J720 is off.

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