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Edgecutter
Edgecutter Page Icon Posted 2004-09-23 10:37 PM
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Greetings,

If they are any Mobile Pro 900 users out there, I'd like to exchange ideas on use, to maximize my computing experience.

TIA!
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Juergen Page Icon Posted 2004-09-26 7:57 AM
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I'm no MobilePro 900 user, therefore I beg your pardon for hijacking your thread, Edgecutter But I'm looking for some MobilePro 900 and 900c users, too, willing to spare some minutes of their time and contribute benchmark results for comparison with other hpc devices.

Benchmarking and comparing results is a little dangerous, maybe misleading potential buyers and of course no real measurement for the performance in individually set-up environment with special applications, drivers and so on. But it's quite a good starting point for discussing general abilities, highlights and lowlights of a device. Therefore we're collecting benchmark results from as many different hpc devices as we can get for some time now. The tool we're using is a Japanese freeware benchmark called BMQ (running on hpc pro, hpc 2000, ce.net). The author has collected results for pocket pc and palmsize pc, too, but for us the interesting part is the comparison between hpc devices .

So, if any MobilePro 900 or 900c user would spare some minutes, download the benchmark tool and contribute his results...? Especially comparing the results between 900 and 900c would be very interesting, wouldn't it?

Thanks in advance
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clintonfitchdotcom Page Icon Posted 2004-09-28 9:20 PM
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Unfortunately I suspect you will find very few 900x owners. NEC has screwed up the marketing and distribution up on this device to the point that many who order it have cancelled and nobody seems to be able to get their hands on one, us at HPCF included.

However, the 900 is a GREAT device (which is why I'm so dissapointed in their mucking around).
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chiark Page Icon Posted 2004-09-29 3:32 AM
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It is a crying shame that they appear to have been simply uninterested in actually selling the device which they've developed. One can only speculate as to reasons why... "Weird" is the best word for it.

We can only hope that NEC get bored of messing people around and dump stock sometime. That's assuming that they actually have any!

I for one would love this device, but my budget does not run to what the limited suppliers seem to want for them!
Cheers,
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takwu Page Icon Posted 2004-10-09 3:18 AM
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So you guys are saying you can't actually buy the MP900? I agree that it'd be weird.

Handheld Canada has it listed, but they don't have stock.
http://www.handheldcanada.com/netCoreWebRequest/handheld/UserShowProductDetail?productId=20239
I guess someone could order it and see. Don't look at me I'm broke
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irobertson Page Icon Posted 2004-10-19 3:50 AM
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I had the oppourtunity tonight to buy a Mobilepro 900 from a nice fellow but I turned it down. I'm using a Mobilepro 790 right now and I couldn't convince myself that even $400US was worth spending on it. Why?

(In my humble opinion

The only major advantage to the 900 is the processor speed (and boost in RAM). I'm sure it's insanely fast comparatively (400mhz from 168mhz). However to me, the 900 is essentially a 790 with a processor boost. HPC 2000 functions relatively well but has been ultimately forgotten by developers on the whole, especially when it comes to web applications. The only properly working instant messaging client is iMov Messenger. No MSN from Microsoft for us. Not even a java package that lets us use the online web based versions, and that's probably because we're left with an antiquated browser (IE 4.0) that does some javascript functions and very basic CSS and leaves a lot to be desired. (I've even tried the HP Chai Java VM and the Jeode VM on the Jornada 720 without much success.) I can log into hotmail but I can't do next to anything in it. I can use the MSN Mobile Hotmail, but that can be rather cumbersome to work with (try deleting lots of messages at once, you'll have to select each one, no "select all" or anything).

I'm starting to rant here, but the point is that the 900 is a great machine that needs some legs especially on the web side of software. Netfront is not very good in my opinion, at least on HPCs. It's hard to get all the display bugs out using the PPC dlls and I'm not an avid programmer so I can't do much more than play around with dll files.

For me to buy a 900, I would need to have a major upgrade in the web browser available, like Thunderhawk or IE 5.5/6.0 or Mozilla. Otherwise, I'll just take my time with the 790 and save some money and keep watching for a new browser.
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clintonfitchdotcom Page Icon Posted 2004-10-19 7:54 AM
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There is some truth to your post for sure. If - and it is a big if - developers will work with CE 4.x for the platform, the 900c could be a worthy upgrade. The browser has been improved in 4.x although it is still not great.
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C:Amie Page Icon Posted 2004-10-19 8:07 AM
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irobertson - 2004-10-19 8:50 AM

The only properly working instant messaging client is iMov Messenger. No MSN from Microsoft for us. Not even a java package that lets us use the online web based versions, and that's probably because we're left with an antiquated browser (IE 4.0) that does some javascript functions and very basic CSS and leaves a lot to be desired.

Actually there is a Microsoft HPC2000 client for messenger, it's called Portrait. The interface is a little cumbersom, however it does work.
As for a Java version... come now. MSN only released a http version in the last 3 months or so!!

irobertson - 2004-10-19 8:50 AM

I'm starting to rant here, but the point is that the 900 is a great machine that needs some legs especially on the web side of software. Netfront is not very good in my opinion, at least on HPCs. It's hard to get all the display bugs out using the PPC dlls and I'm not an avid programmer so I can't do much more than play around with dll files.

Don't worry about ranting, I do it all the time.

At least you can say you've seen a 900! That's more than we have around here. So be greatful for that much!
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Hurricane John Page Icon Posted 2004-12-02 8:20 AM
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Here is a great website with lots of info on MP 900/900c - check it out.


http://www.diverseinfo.com/index.php


I have a MP 900 and it is a wonderful piece of machinery - possibly one of the best HPCs NEC has ever produced.
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edgecutter Page Icon Posted 2004-12-04 7:12 AM
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Hurricane I tried to log on to the website you suggested and it could not be found? I used the link provided by you. Any other suggestions?

Edgecutter.
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C:Amie Page Icon Posted 2004-12-04 7:40 AM
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Strange, DI work here, try:
http://12.150.60.65/
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Greger Page Icon Posted 2004-12-04 4:23 PM
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I have used the NEC 900 for over a year. It is, for me, a laptop replacement, with some additional software (TextMaker). It has three things that bug me:

The Sierra Aircard wireless modem works great for internet connections but will not connect to a landline modem wirelessly . This is an XScale processor problem that some (Like HP) fixed but NEC will not.

The networking ability is, as a practical matter, from limited to non-existent. I have spent hours and invested in three network cards and never got it to work.

I cannot get activesynch to synch remotely. Hours of investigation lead me to suspect that this is related to the networking deficiencies.
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sophisticatedleaf Page Icon Posted 2004-12-04 6:17 PM
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Check the database on the site for a card you want to work. Activesyncing is not hard to set up wirelessly, once you have a connection. Just find the name of your desktop through the control panels or network neighborhood. Then, on the hpc, while in explorer type it in after //. So it will look something like //GREG-X3462W7 . Maybe \\ first, I don't remember.

But anyways, once you succesfully see the shared folders on your computer, you can exit that, and if you open activesync you will see your computer's name as an option.

Us at this site are working on figuring out the whole web browsing thing, and as far as networking, you just have to do your homework before buying anything. 3 network cards or not, quantity doesn't matter, if they don't have drivers, none of them will work. If you post the models we may be able to help. But check in the HCL on this site. (Is that what it is called?)
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C:Amie Page Icon Posted 2004-12-04 7:27 PM
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PS, you got it HCL - Hardware Compatibility List, Here

Greager, I'm sorry to hear that you are having problems. I'm sure we'll do the best we can to help.
Firstly just to clafiy. It is a MP900 not a MP900C?

There are guides in the support section here on Factor that walk you through LAN sync. Chances are the problem is NetBIOS related so a LMHost ref will fix it.

If you create a new thread with your problems & what you've done, we'll see what we can do - no sense hijacking this one.
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Snappy! Page Icon Posted 2004-12-05 7:27 PM
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C-Amie - 2004-12-04 5:27 PM

PS, you got it HCL - Hardware Compatibility List, Here

Greager, I'm sorry to hear that you are having problems. I'm sure we'll do the best we can to help.
Firstly just to clafiy. It is a MP900 not a MP900C?


From what I know, they are the same h/w but MP900 run wince3.0 while MP900c run CE.net

Kinda like MP780 vs MP790 ....

arrrgggh .... when oh when will my MP790 arrive!!!
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