WiFi, Jornada 820 and ups and dows

First, the good news:
Orinoco / Proxim 8410 WD works with my jornada. At home, with a Netgear wireless router, I can sync and exchange folders and print via wireless. Cool.
But setting up security I managed to screw things up mightily. Now lost.
AT work, trying to run an ad hoc setup with a Netgear USB adaptor. The Jornada can see the desktop system. No file exchange; no activesync.
I've read the help sections. Repeatedly done as I was told. Still no joy.
If anyone wants to help, we could take it off the forum, 'cause I know this stuff is fairly user-specific. If it's of interest, well, I'll jot down everything I've got and we can figure it out together.
But A+ for the Orinoco Gold card. It's not the problem; it appears bulletproof.
Unfortunately, I'm not.

well, some progress
on the ad hoc. I turned on DHCP, which I do not want to use, and I can activesync. Can't see the shared directories on the xp pro desktop, but that may be a firewall/xp/bill gates-only-knows problem.
All I want is the same functionality I had with the 3Com wired network setup.
Still, there's progress... however slight.

Are you able to see said shares on the same XP system when using Wired LAN?

No. But I've never tried: that LAN connects me with my secretary and she has no access to my PC -- but I do to hers to drop files etc.
When I used the 3COM card via the same LAN to connect jornada to xp, it worked and shared fine.
I can make an adhoc connection with the WLAN, but cannot get either xp or Jornada to shake hands or get past xp saying "Good connection; there's another pc out there, alright!"

Good grief, I'm frazzled with my work and leaving out details.
My secretary's PC can connect with mine over the LAN: we have a messaging system which works without a hitch.
So the wired LAN does what it's supposed to.
WLAN sees the Jornada/Orinoco client but cannot communicate.
While I'm at it, another question/complication: the Orinoco doesn't have 128k WEP or WPA. 64K WEP produces a 5 character key; 64K WEP on the Netgear client produces a 10 character key.
Is there a way to reconcile, or,
is there a _GOOD_ site on WEPping?
again: thanks

A 64-bit key should be 8 characters long surely

I'm back. This is l-o-n-g and full of details... please bear with me.

right now encryption is moot.

I've got this setup, perhaps you can spot what I'm doing wrong:
Orinoco card on Jornada 820 setup peer to peer no encryption, channel 11, dhcp off
Netgear WG111 USB wireless client on XP, setup peer to peer, no encryption, channel 11, dhcp off. SSID name is setup correctly in both
IP addresses: see printout from ipconfig below.

My wired LAN goes through a router which doesn't use DHCP and handles the wired LAN connection from my Jornada (Via 3Com 3c589, but that's another story) and connects to another pc on the network. Two PCs (Jornada and XP PC) go into the router on my desk,which runs to a second router at the other end, into which the second pc is plugged.

When I use the wired LAN to activesync, I have WINS set to 192.168.0.5 to match the wired LAN card in the xp machine. works fine.
the wireless TCP/IP setup uses static IP, has gateway and dns set as that IP number, has netbios set--everything the same as the (working) wired LAN TCP/ip settings.

I can ping the PPP adapter from the Jornada (!) but cannot ping 192.168.0.10--the netgear usb adapter, nor ping the xp LAN at 0.05. The orinoco utility on the JOrnada is able to see the network and call up the AP MAC address. But that MAC address doesn't match any of my hardware! Now that's a mystery. Another AP hiding outside my office? with the same SSID?? I'm lost.

And, as the ipconfig info below shows, there are two "ethernet wireless connection 3"

My guesses: soemthig at the xp end is blocking the orinoco card; the netgear USB wireless is incorrectly set up.

IPCONFIG:
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : steve
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Marvell Yukon Gigabit Ethernet Adapter, Copper RJ-45
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : xx.xx.xx.xx.xx
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.5
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.5

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection 3:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NETGEAR WG111 802.11g Wireless USB2.0 Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : xx.xx.xx.xx.xx
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.10

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection 3:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NETGEAR WG111 802.11g Wireless USB2.0 Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : xx.xx.xx.xx.xx
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.10
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.10
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.10

PPP adapter {ccccccccccxxxxxxxxxxxxsssssssssss}:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : xx.xx.xx.xx.xx
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 216.174.233.200
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 216.174.233.200
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 66.224.98.2
66.224.98.3
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

OK,

First immedia issue is that you don't modify the DNs address to point to the ActiveSYnc host, these need to point to a legitimate, Fully Qualifiable DNS server which can Root sync. Your Internet router will have the ability.
If that is x.10 then OK.

Second, it was probably a type but just in case. You don't prefix the 5 in 192.168.0.5 (0.05).

The MAC address could be appearing incorrectly because of a security measure which is masking MAC address broadcasting with a fake. Warchlakers and security (over) minded do it a lot.
It could be a setting in the router / WAP

Third, do you really have that many routers running? Or is one a Switch / Hub?

Have you gone through the usual firewall motions, including unblocking ICMP requests on the XP firewall.

Why are there two wireless 3's listed, which is real?

OK. Let's see:
First immedia issue is that you don't modify the DNs address
so I remove all the DNS references, in all cases, on the XP LAN and WLAN and Orinoco TCP/IP protocols?
If that is x.10 then OK.
sorry to be dense: in which client is it OK?

Second, it was probably a type but just in case. You don't prefix the 5 in 192.168.0.5 (0.05).
Yes. my shorthand: 192.168.0.5 not 192.168.0.05. I've got them correct on my setup.

The MAC address could be appearing incorrectly because of a security measure
Hmmm, look for the router doing that?

Third, do you really have that many routers running? Or is one a Switch / Hub?
It has been so long ago, but I think, again, you're on target; one's a router, one's a hub/switch/not-a-router WAN/LAN. Both are netgear rp614s.

Have you gone through the usual firewall motions, including unblocking ICMP requests on the XP firewall.
I don't use the xp firewall; use McAfee instead; ICMPs are all set for free flow both ways. NETBIOS as well. SEtup is for trusted addresses, which covers all used in the network.

Why are there two wireless 3's listed, which is real?
That's what I'm wondering! I've tried killing them off and reinstalling; two always rear their ugly heads.

Tell me Mac owners don't go through this mess too?

yet again
Here's where I am today. First from ipconfig:
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : steve
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Marvell Yukon
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : nnnnnnnnnnnnn
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.5
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
PPP adapter {6FBDF1F0-FFBE-48D2-8F74-36D5A316F350}:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : nnnnnnnnnnnnnn
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 216.174.233.125
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 216.000.000.000
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 66.224.0000 66.224.0000
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection 4:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NETGEAR WG111 802.11g USB2.0 Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : nnnnnnnnnn
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.10
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

From the xp machine I can ping the netgear usb adapter, the xp LAN NIC and the netgear router. Not the Jornada.

From the Jornada and its Orinoco gold card, I can ping the Jornada's address and 0.0.0.0. No response from the xp machine's LAN NIC, the router or the usb wireless adapter.
I'm at a loss; don't know where to go with this. can someone point me?

another wrinkle
I'm flipping switches just to see what happens.
I set the Jornada's Network config to "obtain address through dhcp"
I can ping the xp desktop and the USB wireless adapter, and the wired router using its WAN IP address.
Now activesync shows no network for syncing.
I cannot open up the desktop in explorer, getting only a bad network path message.
I can run everything fine at home, using a Netgear wireless router as an AP.
Using the Netgear USB adapter, peer to peer: nope.
I don't want to use DHCP; rather assign IP addresses.
muddied waters continue to swirl.
any direction you may point me??

My last try for help on this one/these two:
My wireless network at home works fine with two PCs (Win2000 and XP), a wired LAN router/hub and a wireless AP receiving from my Jornada 820 and Orinoco wifi card.
All works, except internet connection sharing.
I've read the tutorials, but can't sort out what settings I should be using on the Jornada to reach the desktop PC with the modem (I'm in a rural area; only dialup here) I have set up ICS on the xp machine and double checked its connections/settings.
Second problem is ad hoc connecting at the office. Tried tweaking everything and can ping across the wireless radios, but cannot access the other PC from the Jornada.
If this thread is dying, before it's buried can someone please tell me where to look for help? I"ve googled all over creation without much luck on either issue.

OK. Does everything work on the XP Machine, i.e. Internet, File Sharing all working through WIFI, right. If not make sure that all works then try this:

On your HPC:

Go to the Control Panel, Network, Then get the properties of your WIFI adapter, now set all to Specify an IP address enter:

IP Address - 192.168.0.2

Subnet - 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway - The IP of your router or Internet Sharing PC.

Tap the Name servers tab:

Set the Primary DNS to the same as the Default Gateway,

Tap OK,

Open the WIFI cards Utility,

(Make sure the Secutity level of all your systems is 0)

Set your SSID to your networks SSID,

and Authentication Type to Open.

That should be it, that done it for me.

Nick